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1871: Ignore the spouse. There are 3 households at the one address. Elizabeth, her son, John, & another lodger. Name: Elizabeth Tibbles Age: 73 Estimated birth year: abt 1798 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Ann Gender: Female Where born: Westminster, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Hampstead St John Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 6 Roslyn Street Occupation: dairywoman Condition as to marriage: widow Registration district: Hampstead Sub-registration district: Hampstead ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 40 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Tibbles 73 Thomas Tibbles 36 - son; dairyman Emma Tibbles 37 - daughter-in-law Mary Reid 12 - niece (separate Household) Sarah Casteline 60 - lodger Thomas Jackson 10 -grandson Robert Jackson 8 - grandson Harriet Jackson 5 - grandaughter (separate household) John Tibbles 41 - lodger; dairyman Mary Ann Tibbles 35 - wife John Tibbles 18 - son; assistant William Tibbles 17 - son

1861: Name: Joseph Tibbles Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1826 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Eliza Gender: Male Where born: Hampstead, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Hampstead County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: 1 Lower Heath Cottage Occupation: none recorded (though perhaps a dairyman if you look at the servant) Registration district: Hampstead Sub-registration district: Hampstead ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 185 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Tibbles 35 Eliza Tibbles 34 Frederick J Tibbles 2 Arthur J Tibbles 7 Mo Elizabeth L Tibbles 7 Mo Eliza A Han 54 - visitor; unmarried; dressmaker Louisa Crane 15 - servant Philip Edwards 20 - servant; cowkeeper carman

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Yes, that's the one I have above but it can't be the Elizabeth in the censuses as she was not even born. Ozi.

The only marriage I could find for Joseph Tibbles to Elizabeth Tames was this, from familysearch: JOSEPH TIBBLES Marriages: Spouse: ELIZABETH TAME Marriage: 23 OCT 1796 Saint Matthew, Bethnal Green, London, England

Looking at Elizabeth's age on censuses that can't be her marriage. Though he may have been married before. Ozi.

THANKS KATHLEEN YOUR AN ANGEL

I think the occupation on the 1841 census might be Cow Keeper. I think sometimes people kept a cow and sold the milk. Kath. x

THANKS OZI YOUR A GEM

THANKS KATHLEEN THATS LOOKS LIKE HIM REGARDS JEANETTE

1851: Name: Elizabeth Tibbles Age: 54 Estimated birth year: abt 1797 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: St Jas Westmr, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Hampstead County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Roslyn Street Occupation: Cowkeeper & dairywoman (that solves that one) Condition as to marriage: widow Registration district: Hampstead Sub-registration district: Hampstead ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 52 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Tibbles 54 Joseph Tibbles 25 - assistant; St John, Hampstead John Tibbles 21 - assistant; St John, Hampstead Thomas Tibbles 17 Sarah Tibbles 15 James Winsbury 26 - nephew; water carrier

There is this death in Edmonton:- Name: Joseph Tibbles Year of Registration: 1842 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Edmonton County: Essex, Hertfordshire, Middlesex Volume: 3 Page: 111 Kath. x

This is a possibility. IGI Individual Record JOSEPH TIBBLES Marriages: Spouse: ELIZABETH TAME Marriage: 23 OCT 1796 Saint Matthew, Bethnal Green, London, England Source Information: Batch No.: M046984 Dates: 1777 - 1802

OZI YOU WOULD NOT KNOW HOW I COULD FIND OUT WHICH COUNTRY HE WAS BORN

NO PROBLEM THANKS ANYWAY TAKE CARE JEANETTE

Unfortunately 1841 doesn't give place of birth, only whether born in county or not. I can't find him in 1851. Ozi.

OZIBIRD COULD YOU TELL ME WHERE HE WAS BORN I DO BELIEVE THAT WE ORIGINATE FROM FRANCE,THANKS FOR YOUR HELP REGARDS JEANETTE

If this is him, he's recorded as not born in county. 1841: Name: Joseph Tibbles Age: 60 Estimated birth year: abt 1781 Gender: Male Civil parish: St John Hampstead Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Roslyn Street Occupation: C___ Keeper. (I can't work it out.) Registration district: Edmonton Sub-registration district: Hampstead Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph Tibbles 60 Elizabeth Tibbles 40 Joseph Tibbles 16 John Tibbles 12 Mary Tibbles 10 Thomas Tibbles 8 Harith Tibbles 5 William Tibbles 2

JOSEPH TIBBLES BORN LONDON POSSIBLE SHOREDITCH IN 1776 MARRIED ELIZABETH TAMES IN 1796 THANK-YOU JEANETTE