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28 Aug 2007 09:51 |
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I've just started tracing my g/g/grandmother Maria Sharp/e nee Gillespie. She was born in ? Ireland c1844 but lived most of here life in Everton, Lancs.
At a glance, I can't see her on the 1851 census so maybe she came to England after this date. I'm also unable to find her on 1871 census but have her on all others.
Maybe I need glasses because I can't see a marriage for her either. She married William Sharp/e around 1860. I'm starting to wonder if they married in Ireland.
I'd also be interested in tracing her brothers who appear on the 1861 census.
1881 England Census about Maria Sharp Name: Maria Sharp Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Wm Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Everton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 28 Beatrice St Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Everton ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Jno. Gillespie 13 Jno. Sharp 18 Joseph Sharp 5 Maria Sharp 38 Rich. Sharp 8 Robt. Sharp 20 Wm Sharp 43
1861 England Census about Maria Sharp Name: Maria Sharp Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: St Martin ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 67 Household Members: Name Age Janes Gillespon 13 Thomas Gillespon 11 William Gillespon 15 Maria Sharp 18 William Sharp 23
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Deb:)
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28 Aug 2007 10:03 |
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Right then, I'm definately getting my eyes checked...lol. I've just found the marriage ref.
Name: Maria Gillespie Year of Registration: 1860 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Liverpool (1837-1934) County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 297
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28 Aug 2007 10:17 |
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1871 census Name: Marria Sharp Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Everton Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 4 Household Members: Name Age John W Sharp 8 Marria Sharp 28 Mary Ellen Sharp 7 months Robert Sharp 9 William Sharp 32
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28 Aug 2007 10:21 |
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1881 census maybe Name: James Gillespie Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Frances A. Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 21 Slater St Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Butcher Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Gillespie 9 Niece Frances A. Gillespie 23 James Gillespie 31 Thomas Gillespie 28 Thomas J. Gillespie
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28 Aug 2007 10:30 |
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Thank you June. I don't think I've got my brain switched on today. I couldn't see those records before!
Now all I need to find is William. I've noticed that there's a John Gillespie aged 13 (nephew) living with Maria in 1881. I'll have a look for him too.
I'm not having much luck finding any of this Irish family on IGI.
Deb:)
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28 Aug 2007 10:44 |
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1871 census maybe
Name: Thomas C Gillispie Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:Butcher
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: Islington ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 76
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28 Aug 2007 10:49 |
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1871 census maybe
Name: John Gillispie Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868 Relation: Son Father's Name: William P Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: St Martin ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 83 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Gillispie 22 John Gillispie 3 Rabica Gillispie 3 months William P Gillispie 26 /Butcher
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28 Aug 2007 10:53 |
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There's something weird going on here. I can't figure out who the John Gillespie living with Maria in 1881 belongs to. I thought maybe Thomas and coincidently there is a Thomas with son John in Pescot but I don't think it's the same Thomas. No sign of William Gillespie either.
Deb:)
Thanks Sophie. I'll have a look at the site.
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28 Aug 2007 10:56 |
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Ooohhh June, you're an angel. There they are!
Thank you!
Deb:)
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28 Aug 2007 11:02 |
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Deaths Jun 1871 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gillespie Rebecca 0 Liverpool 8b 13
Deaths Jun 1878 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GILLESPIE William age 32 Liverpool 8b 176
1881 census Name: Elizabeth Gillespie Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Boarder Gender: Female Where born: Lpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Toxteth Park County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 10 Gore St Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower) Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Charwoman Registration district: Toxteth Park Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Mary Doyle 44 Richard Doyle 48 Thomas Doyle 8 Elizabeth Gillespie 31 Mary Seymour 74
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28 Aug 2007 11:12 |
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OMG. That's so sad. But it explains why John went to live with his aunt Maria. Poor Elizabeth. She lost her family. I'm heartbroken for her.
Deb
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28 Aug 2007 11:28 |
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1891 census Name: Frances Ann Gillespey [Frances Ann James] Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas E Mother's Name: Sarah Ann Gender: Female Where born: Liverpool Civil Parish: Everton Ecclesiastical parish: St Augustine Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: South Everton ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Christopher Gillaspey 6 John Gillaspey 4 Frances Ann Gillespey 32 Widower Catherine L James 17 Maria E James 22 Martha A James 2 Sarah Ann James 60 Thomas E James 60 Thos Hy James 28
Looks like William died
1901 census Name: Frances A Gillespie Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Everton Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: South Everton ED, institution, or vessel: 45 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 43 Household Members: Name Age Frances A Gillespie 42 John Hy Gillespie 14 Richard C Gillespie 16 Thomas J Gillespie 20
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28 Aug 2007 11:38 |
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I wonder where Richard and Thomas were in 1891?
Deb:)
Can't see them. Must be mis-transcribed........blast!
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28 Aug 2007 11:44 |
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thomas 1891? Thos James Gillespie Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relation: Scholar Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: St George ED, institution, or vessel: Blue Coat School
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28 Aug 2007 11:44 |
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Francess A. GILLESPIE Female -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Information: Birth Year Birthplace Dover, Kent, England Age 22 Occupation Domestic Servant Unemployed Marital Status U Head of Household John K. GILLESPIE Relation Dau Disability -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 6 Charlton Green Census Place Charlton, Kent, England Family History Library Film 1341238 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1001 / 19 Page Number 32
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28 Aug 2007 11:46 |
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That looks like Thomas. Thanks Jennifer.
Deb:)
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28 Aug 2007 14:10 |
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Name: Elizabeth Gillespie Year of Registration: 1872 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Liverpool (1837-1934) County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 160 (click to see others on page) Birth
The Elizabeth in 1881 with James that is Niece
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