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Lynnette

Lynnette Report 12 Jan 2008 15:28

I am looking to see what information there is on Thomas Pettigrew. Born 1890 in Paisley, Scotland. He served in helping to build hospitals during the war. He did not die in the war. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Potty

Potty Report 12 Jan 2008 15:29

Was he in the Army?

Vera

Vera Report 12 Jan 2008 15:33

Hi Lynnette,
1891 Scotland
Have found this one....any good?

Thomas Pettigrew
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Currie, Midlothian
Registration Number: 682
Registration district: Currie
Civil Parish: Currie
County: Midlothian
Address: Malling Mills
ED: 4
Page: 5 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 23
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1891_330
Household Members: Name Age
Agnes B Pettigrew 3
Elizabeth Pettigrew 35
James Pettigrew 5
Janet Pettigrew 7
Thomas Pettigrew 1
William Pettigrew 33


Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 12 Jan 2008 15:35

Here they are in 1901

Thomas Pettigrew
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Currie, Midlothian
Registration Number: 682
Registration district: Currie
Civil Parish: Currie
County: Midlothian
Address: Malleny Mills
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 4
Page: 18 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 80
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1901_361
Household Members: Name Age
Agnes Pettigrew 13
Elizabeth Pettigrew 44
George Pettigrew 6
James Pettigrew 15
Jane Pettigrew 3
Janet Pettigrew 17
Thomas Pettigrew 11
William Pettigrew 43
William Pettigrew 9


Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 12 Jan 2008 15:45

Hi Lynnette,
If he was in the army on the National Archives site...medal cards...there are a few Thomas Pettigrews some in Scottish Regiments and one with the Royal Army Medical Corps.
Regards Vera

Lynnette

Lynnette Report 12 Jan 2008 17:15

Thanks for the information Vera. That is not him. His Mum's name was Barbara and Father was James.

I don't know if he was in the Army. This is what I was given "he was in France during the 1914 -1918 war, before he was married. He was building hospitals for the wounded . He was a joiner to trade."

By that, I don't know if one had to be enlisted to partake or if one could go and help as a volunteer.

Vera

Vera Report 12 Jan 2008 17:52

Hi Lynnette,
Found him in 1891
Thomas Pettiegrew
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Barbara
Gender: Male
Where born: Paisley, Renfrewshire
Registration Number: 573
Registration district: Paisley
Civil Parish: Paisley Middle Church
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Murray St Field Cott
ED: 38
Page: 14 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 63
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1891_190
Household Members: Name Age
Janet McKenzie 70
Barbara Pettiegrew 30
James Pettiegrew 55
Janet Pettiegrew 1
Thomas Pettiegrew 2

Regards Vera

Vera

Vera Report 12 Jan 2008 17:54

Here they are Thomas Pettigrew
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Barbara
Gender: Male
Where born: Paisley, Renfrewshire
Registration Number: 573/1
Registration district: Paisley
Civil Parish: Paisley
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Caledonia Fireclay Works
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 52
Page: 5 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 21
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1901_207
Household Members: Name Age
Janet McKenzie 80
Alexander Pettigrew 7
Barbara Pettigrew 39
James Pettigrew 64
Janet H Pettigrew 10
Margret Mcd Pettigrew 4m
Matilda Pettigrew 8
Thomas Pettigrew 12

Regards Vera

Lynnette

Lynnette Report 13 Jan 2008 01:07

Thank you Vera.
I still have no clue about him and the war but this is much more of a treasure to me than that information could be. I now have names of siblings and parents and what looks like a grandparent.

Lynnette

Lynnette

Lynnette Report 13 Jan 2008 01:47

Can I pose a quick question? Is it not unusual to have husband and wife with a 25 year age difference? James pettigrew is the husband of Barbara and also the 64 year old Father of a newborn? It just seems like such a huge difference especially from those times.

Thanks again for the help you have given.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 13 Jan 2008 03:51

Lynette

I don't think it was all that unusual for a much older man to marry a much younger woman .......... you may well find that this was his second marriage.

It might be worth having a look on earlier censuses to see if James can be found with another wife.



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 13 Jan 2008 04:05

Information from 1901 Census

Household Members: Name Age
Janet McKenzie 80 b.ca 1821, Sanquhar, Dumfriesshire, Mother-in-law
Alexander Pettigrew 7 b.ca 1894, Paisley
Barbara Pettigrew 39 b.ca 1862, Inkerman, Renfrewshire
James Pettigrew 64 b.ca 1837, Houston, Renfrewshire, Joiner in Fireclay Works
Janet H Pettigrew 10 b.ca 1891, Paisley
Margret Mcd Pettigrew 4m b.ca 1901, Paisley
Matilda Pettigrew 8 b.ca 1893, Paisley
Thomas Pettigrew 12


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apparently not married before, here he is with his parents in 1881


1881 Census

Name: James Pettigrew
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Janet
Gender: Male
Where born: Houston, Renfrewshire
Registration Number: 573
Registration district: Paisley
Civil Parish: Paisley Abbey
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 113, Inkerman
Occupation: Joiner
ED: 113
Page: 28 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 117
Line: 19
Roll: cssct1881_175
Household Members: Name Age
James Pettigrew 45
Janet Pettigrew 68 b.ca 1813, Houston, Joiner's Wife
Janet Pettigrew 31 b.ca 1850, Carnbroe, Lanarkshire, Daughter, Dressmaker
Margaret Pettigrew 25 b.ca 1856, Stane, Lanarkshire, Daughter, Assistant Shop Keeper (Hosier)
Matilda Pettigrew 35 b.ca 1846, Carnbroe, Daughter, Dreemaker's Acct.
Thomas Pettigrew 68 b.ca 1813, Houston, Head, Joiner



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 13 Jan 2008 04:09

and in 1851


Name: James Pettigrew
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Janet
Gender: Male
Where born: Houston, Renfrew
Parish Number: 625
Civil Parish: Bothwell
Town: Carnbroe Ironworks
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 3 Railway Row
Occupation: House Wright - Jepp
ED: 11
Page: 28 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 94
Line: 4
Roll: CSSCT1851_149
Household Members: Name Age
James Pettigrew 15
Janet Pettigrew 36
Janet Pettigrew 1
Jean Pettigrew 12
John Pettigrew 9
Matilda Pettigrew 7
Robert Pettigrew 4
Thomas Pettigrew 37

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and in 1841????

Unfortunately, there is no indication of his relationship to the Houston family! ****


Name: James Pettigrew
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Male
Where born: Renfrewshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Houston and Killellan
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Houston Village
Parish Number: 565
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Agnes Houston 30
Jean Houston 55
Robert Houston 35
James Pettigrew 5


sylvia


**** ..... but see note on next page!!

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 13 Jan 2008 04:10

Maybe they all had to wait until their parents died before they could get married???


Again, not that unusual in those days!!



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 13 Jan 2008 04:23

Barbara Pettigrew nee McKenzie in 1871

1871 Census

Name: Barbara McKenzie
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Alexander
Mother's Name: Janet
Gender: Female
Where born: Abbey, Renfrewshire
Registration Number: 559/2
Registration district: Abbey Landward
Civil Parish: Abbey Landward
County: Renfrewshire
Address: 114 Inkermann
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 5
Page: 28 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 110
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1871_95
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander McKenzie 51 b.ca 1820, Latheron, Caithnesshire, Hostler
Archibald McKenzie 18 b.ca 1853, Old Monkland, Lanarkshire, Engine Keeper
Barbara McKenzie 10
Elizabeth McKenzie 13 b.ca 1858, Old Monkland
Janet McKenzie 50 b.ca 1821, Sangshon, Dumfriesshire
Janet McKenzie 5 b.ca 1866, Abbey, Renfrewshire
John McKenzie 15 b.ca 1856, Old Monkland, Honedriver (<<<< no idea what that is!!)
Mary McKenzie 20 b.ca 1851, Old Monkland, Winder in Factory



NOTE .............. look at the address -- James Pettigrew and his family are living at 113 Inkerman on the 1881 Census


- - - -
1881 Census

Name: Barbara McKenzie
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Alexander
Mother's Name: Jnet
Gender: Female
Where born: Inkerman, Renfrewshire
Registration Number: 573
Registration district: Paisley
Civil Parish: Paisley Abbey
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Inkerman, Stable Yard
Occupation: Thread Mill Worker
ED: 113
Page: 46 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 171
Line: 16
Roll: cssct1881_175
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander McKenzie 57 b.ca 1824, Glibestone, Caithnesshire, Oil Company's Carter
Barbara McKenzie 20
Janet McKenzie 14 b.ca 1867, Inkerman, Renfrewshire, Thread Mill Worker
Jnet McKenzie 57 b.ca 1824, Sanquhar, Dumfriesshire, Carter's Wife



sylvia




SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 13 Jan 2008 04:39

Go to www.familysearch.org (it is free) ... This is the Mormon or LDS site.

Click on Advance Search

Scroll down to International Genealogical Index

Enter James Pettigrew
1855 +/- 20 years
British Isles, Scotland, Renfrew


and you will find this:-

IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
Search Results | Download

JAMES PETTIGREW Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth: 20 MAR 1836 Houston And Killellan, Renfrew, Scotland

Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: THOMAS PETTIGREW Family
Mother: JANET HOUSTON

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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.





NOW .... this is an EXTRACTED record which means it has been taken from the actual parish register.

Other entries on this site will say SUBMITTED record ................ be very very wary of such entries until you have been able to find absolute confirmation. IThe entries have been submitted by members of the LDS Church, and it is not unknown for them to be very wrong (or even made up!).


It turns out that the entry for Barbara McKenzie is a SUBMITTED record!!

IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
Search Results | Download

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BARBARA B. MC KENZIE Pedigree
Female

Event(s):
Birth: 30 MAR 1861 Paisley, Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew, Scotland

Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: ALEXANDER MC KENZIE Family
Mother: JANET BROWN

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Messages:
Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the batch and sheet number.


You can find all kinds of information on there ... jsut remember to be very wary of Submitted records!!



Plus of course ................ ALL information you are given, whetehr from that site or given to you on here must be double checked, and certificates obtained whereever possible!




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 13 Jan 2008 19:01

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BTW .............. if his mother's name was Janet HOUSTON as on the familysearch information, then he was probably staying with his mother's relations on the 1841 census!



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Jan 2008 01:19

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Lynnette

Lynnette Report 14 Jan 2008 02:44

Thank you Sylvia and SH Rat.

I keep getting a little information that seems to lead to an explosion of information.

Janet Houston is in the family. Will have to see where that link goes. I'm hoping Houston is a very popular name as it has popped up on both my Gran's side and Grandpa's side.

Thank you again!