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Hi,
looking for info. regards Amy Dales Tinker a great grand mother of mine. She query married Charles William Hewitt, although a marriage cannot be found. Her son was Charles Emmanuel Hewitt born in 1907 at Queen's Street, Grimsby.
thank-you Shirley

You have bought Charles Emmauels birth cert? Im sure you would have noticed if there were two surnames for mum - i.e. she hadnt been married before?

Just out of interest just noticed there is a Tinker one name study group run by a John G Tinker! Have a google for it.

There are a number of Amy Dales Tinker birth records but this seems the most likely re age - do you know her age at all?
Name: Amy Dales Tinker
Year of Registration: 1887
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Caistor
County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 642

Hi,
yes the birth cert. on Charles Emmanual Hewitt states 'Amy Dales Hewitt, formerly Tinker', but I have searched the marriages and have not found it!
Once more there is a marriage for Amy D. Tinker to someone called Moore, (off the top of my head) in 1910.
thanks Shirley

Hmm

me: Amy D Tinker
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's Surname: Moore
District: Grimsby
County: Humberside, Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 1661

Looks like she may not have married the first chap - unless she reverted to her maiden name after he died or left her? If the girl born above is the right one (is it the right area - I dont know Grimsby at all?) then we could have a look at her. But it sounds like you have ancestry already.

It may well be worth contacting that chap J G Tinker and his one name study group. Ive been contacted by a similar group over acouple of my unusual names and they have usually spent decades putting everything together so could be of great help to you.

Its obviously a long line of Dales Tinkers isnt it - which will also help you:


Match quality: 3 out of 5 Amy Dales Tinker 1860 Oct-Nov-Dec Louth Lincolnshire
View Record

Match quality: 3 out of 5 Amy Dales Tinker 1869 Jan-Feb-Mar Sculcoates Yorkshire - East Riding
View Record

Match quality: 3 out of 5 Amy D Tinker 1914 Apr-May-Jun Moore Grimsby

Hi,
yes I am fairly sure the 1887 birth for Amy Dales Tinker is correct, on census her father's name is Charles Emmanuel. I just cannot find her or her husband Marriage, death.
Shall follow your advice and have a google.
Thank-you Shirley

Shirley, this homepage should help you: its called Tinkers united - lol


http://uk.geocities.com/[email protected]/index.htm

John Tinker invites you to contact him to search his Tinker data base:

[email protected]

Didn't see this one before -- big duplication ...

http://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=983126

There really just isn't any doubt that Tinker and Hewitt were not married, and there isn't much point rehashing it in another thread.

I've found Charles William Hewitt in the Imperial Yeomanry in the Anglo-Boer war c1901, which would explain his absence from the census; see that thread.

I have found an Amy Dales Tinker married in 1914 her father was an Charles Emmanuel.
Send me a message if you would like the detals,I have to go now.




Regards
Sheila

That's the marriage we're all taking about, Sheila -- so bravo us, we were right (I was right yesterday in the other thread, of course), and that is the right Amy Dales Tinker (like anybody thought it wasn't ...). That is indeed the father's name in question.

So Amy Dales Tinker and Charles William Hewitt .w.e.r.e. .n.o.t. .m.a.r.r.i.e.d.

Like I've been saying.

Hi,
Anglo-Boer war, well that does explain his absence on the ordinary 1901 census. Thank-you Kathryn your a star!
Have ordered the Tinker /Moore marriage and the Tinker birth cert. Will have to wait to after Xmas for them to arrive. I think I should do the possible death cert as well.
kind regards Shirley

Now we can't be sure that's your Charles William! But the propensity to use both given names, the fact that he doesn't seem to be anywhere else, the age .. if he was a fisher he was obviously up for physical challenge and danger ... makes sense.

I did correspond with Kevin Asplin once about how to get military records from that period, but I never actually understood it. I took a stab at ordering something from the Archives, but whatever I did, it was wrong. I'm after finding out what became of my annoying mysterious gr-grfather's sister's son, whom I found in one of Kevin Asplin's IY lists under about the fourth variation of his name. So if you decide to give it a shot, let me know how it goes!

You did see the link I gave in your other thread? It's to a section of Kevin Asplin's list of all the men in the Imperial Yeomanry in the Anglo-Boer war. It's a very useful resource for looking for young men who can't be found in the census -- along with checking Cdn (and to a lesser extent US) records to see whether they went west; it's amazing how many people's missing young men I've found by checking things like Cdn WWI enrolments!

Hi,
yes watch this space and I will let you know what gems of info. I find out!
Wonder if Charles William Hewitt ever officially married!!**????***
He may of joined the army and died in WW1.
Could look up the Commonwealth War Graves Commission......he may have expired during 1914-18, like so many others.
Shirley

Yet still my biggest problem is identifying the right Charles William Hewitt, Charles Hewitt, Hewett, Hewit ect, ect
H E A D A C H E ! ! !

Shirley

I thought I'd checked that ... but lookie here:



Name: HEWITT, CHARLES WILLIAM
Initials: C W
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Corporal
Regiment/Service: Royal Engineers
Unit Text: Tunnelling Coy.
Age: 41
Date of Death: 03/05/1919
Service No: 121823
Additional information: Husband of Annie Hewitt, of 2, Church Terrace, Rhos-y-medre.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: N.G. T. 4 and 5.
Cemetery: RHOS-Y-MEDRE (ST. JOHN) CHURCHYARD


Born about 1888. No, duh. About 1878.

He died in May 1919. Rhosymedre is near Wrexham?


There are Charles W/William + Annie marriages in 1902 in Edmonton and 1912 in Romford and Yarmouth, plus other Charles + Annie marriages.

Another possible:


Name: HEWITT, CHARLES
Initials: C
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: East Lancashire Regiment
Unit Text: 1st Bn.
Age: 37
Date of Death: 19/04/1917
Service No: 6180
Additional information: Son of the late Arthur Hewitt; husband of Elizabeth Ann Hewitt, of Croston Rd., Farington, Preston. Lancs.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Bay 6.
Memorial: ARRAS MEMORIAL


and the usual couple of C/Charles Hewitts with unknown age and family.

Hi,
belated update on Amy Dales Tinker and Charles W. Hewitt.
Yes definitely not married.
Amy marries in 1914 to a Mr. Moore.

In the mean-time I have cross referenced various Charles Hewitt eliminating most of them because they have died, are married, in the wrong occupation ( he is down as a fisherman on his son's birth cert.)

Now I have obtained the death cert. for a Charles Hewitt who died in 1909, 2 yrs after the baby was born. The occupation is stated as Steward of a Trawler.
I suspect this is HIM. He is not married, and an Elizabeth Cutting was present at the Death. He was said to be 35 yrs old, so born about 1874.

But of course there is no family mentioned on the death cert., so yet again another Brick Wall!

Have ordered the National Burial Index, other than this unless any body has any further tips I am stuck.

Regards Shirley

I believe this is where I get to say I TOLD YOU SO. Nyah nyah.

That Charles Hewitt sounds like an excellent candidate. What was the cause of death, out of idle curiosity?

I was going to try looking for Elizabeth Cutting, but Ancestry is giving me the pic of the kid with the lasso, so that will have to wait ...