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Erika

Erika Report 19 Nov 2009 15:36

Hi,
Pllleeease can someone help me. Im searching for my G.G.G Grandfather Robert Waldron. I have managed to trace his life through the censuses (Eldersfield, Gloucs) and the earliest record I have is that of his marriage to Elizabeth Redding in 1828 (Forthampton, Gloucs) and according to censuses he was born approx 1806-1812 in gloucestershire.
I am struggling soooo much and I don't know how to find people before the censuses we're made :-(

Can anyone give me ay advice on searching before then and the 1800's
Thanks
Erika:-) x

Derek

Derek Report 19 Nov 2009 15:51

Hi Erika.looks like Robert Waldron married Elizabeth redding 1828 at Eldersfield WORCESTERSHIRE..........

He was born there 1812 and died 26.03.1850

There is an Elizabeth Redding born 08.07.1811 daughter of William at Forthampton Gloucestershire..and if this is the right one she was living in Eldersfield whe she married.......

This is all very sketchy and is not confirmed, but might give you a clue.

You need someone with Parish records........which I don't have

I'll have a look around.

Derek

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Nov 2009 15:58

DANIEL WALDRON Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 30 MAR 1617 Kingscote, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: RICHARD WALDRON Family
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Nov 2009 15:59

DANIEL WALDRON Pedigree
Male
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 26 JAN 1680 Woodchester, Gloucester, England

Parents:
Father: WM WALDRON Family
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Derek

Derek Report 19 Nov 2009 16:01

Addition to my previous message..

Robert Waldron was buried at Eldersfield Worcs. 26.03.1850

I have his children with Elizabeth::
Marianne 12.09.1830
John 1836
Elizabeth 1840.married William Peacey and had four children
Dinah 1843
James 1845

Derek

I thin you'll be hard out to go any further back without Parish Records

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Nov 2009 16:02

James Waldron Pedigree
Male Family

Event(s):
Birth: About 1675 Of, Little Dean, Gloucester, England

Marriages:
Spouse: Mrs. Elizabeth Waldron Family

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Nov 2009 16:02

JAMES WALDRON Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 22 AUG 1704 Cirencester, Gloucester, England

Parents:
Father: JOSEPH WALDRON Family

Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Erika

Erika Report 19 Nov 2009 16:03

I only managed to find Robert Waldron through my Edwin Waldron. He was born illegitimatly to Roberts Daughter the address on the birth certificate matched that of the census I found with his mother Elizabeth and her father Robert. Its just that i have 3 record that say his birth was Eldersfield 1806and 1812 and another with Worcestershire 1806. I then cant find anything in Eldersfield that relates to his family in this area

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Nov 2009 16:10

Eldersfield is coming up as Worcestershire not Gloucestershire

Erika

Erika Report 19 Nov 2009 16:15

This is another thing that confuses me. Sometimes the records say Worcestershire and sometimes they say gloucestershire :-S

The Death BMD says Gloucestershire

Derek

Derek Report 19 Nov 2009 16:17

Erika.........If you Google Eldersfield Worcs..the second entry gives you "Edersfield Registers"........in there you will find, as i have done, thew marriage of Robert and Elizabeth..and the baptisms of their five children.
ALSO BURIAL OF ROBERT 26.03 1851 aged 38 (at eldersfield worcs!!!)
It appears tha both Robert and Elizabeth were baptsied elsewhere.....but with the full registers to have a go at you should get a start.

As i always say GOOGLE..even the most obscure place..you never know what beauties you'll find..as in this case!!

Derek

Derek

Derek Report 19 Nov 2009 16:46

You can also GOOGLE Forthampton (Gloucs) and get Elizabeths Baptism..daughter of William and Elizabeth direct from the PRS!!
Forthampton is on the border, within spitting distance of Eldersfield..
(and i only do derbyshire!!!)

Derek

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Nov 2009 16:51

FAMILY INDEX The following is an index to all families ident...
Lechmere Eldersfield Court ELDERSFIELD eng wor ...... Waldron Farnham House CAVAN ire cav. Walford Boreham House BOREHAM eng ess ...

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first wife Ann WALDRON; Poor of Tenbury; sister Margery SIMMONS - 40s. and ...... + a further £100 for her to dispose of amongst her family as she wishes. ...

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AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Nov 2009 16:52

Eldersfield Marriages 1837-1880
Eldersfield, Worcestershire. Marriages 1813-1920 ..... William Pacey, widower, son of John Pacey dead & Elizabeth Waldron, daughter of Robert Waldron, dead .... Census Records | Vital Records | Family Trees & Communities | Immigration ...

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AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Nov 2009 16:53

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Derek

Derek Report 19 Nov 2009 17:09

Ok..here is some more simple facts....The daughter of Robert and Elizabeth..called eizabeth..was known as BETSY.

After the death of Robert 1850 (buried 1851) Elizabeth Redding got herself a toyboy 14 years her Junior (John Portman b 1825) and married him at eldersfiel 31.01.1853..and had one childe MARTHA 1854

Elizabeth Redding Waldron Portman was buried at Newent Gloucs 1868 aged 57

There was one other child of Robert and Elizabeth born 1851..who died within a few days.........which begs the question of what happened that caused the death of father and infant child so close together????

and since nobody is acknowledging my several postings on this thread...I think i'll stop wasting my time and move back to my own Threads!!!

Derek

Derek

Derek Report 19 Nov 2009 19:37

Perhaps a bit harsh on Erika, becasue i see she has replied on my PM.....it is much easier, and better, to reply to a posting to click on the Purple "Reply" button..and the send by pressing the purple "Submit" button.

Derek

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Nov 2009 23:21

tis a bit harsh Derek!!!! not to worry, think Erika is new - I've had a pm from her as well and she's having a problem putting this information into context I think.

As Derek says Erika, use the purple reply button under your heading rather than sending us private messages - easy to do, have a go!!!

Ann XX

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 20 Nov 2009 01:36

Well, I was just browsing through this thread before heading for bed, and thought "that is our Derek from Who are we Looking for in Derbyshire", and I haven't seen him on general threads much, he will be worth listening to. And he was.

Derek, it is quite common for responders to put a lot of work in before the original poster gets back, we usually just sit back and wait for a few days. Very frustrating, but just a fact.

Keep up the good work pal.

Margaret

Derek

Derek Report 20 Nov 2009 08:50

Hello Madness!! what a nice comment to find first thing in the morning!! thankyou..and nice to be on the same Thread as Anne too. Top of the marmin' to ye both!! xx