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Hi Aunty

Thank you for all your advice the army records are interesting but no John Walsh, Paul James Walsh, Mary Jane Walsh or Thomas Cooper that fits I found a maybe for a Thomas Walsh.

cheers Deb

Just noticed you have mentioned army.

You need to spend some time here

http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/ResearcherScreen.asp

If it kicks you out go back into the site and log in as a guest user. Costs nothing.

Also this is a good starting point for War Service records

http://www.nla.gov.au/oz/genelist.html#Military

Dear Aunty,

Thankx for all your help maybe I have hit a brick wall . I do use a transcript agency and I am about order the death cert of Richard Joseph Walsh. He was next of (brother ) for Edward and William when they enlisted the army. Until then I did not know he existed.
I have just realised that Cecilia Agnes Stephenson nee Walsh, daughter of Cecilia Walsh nee Quinlan raised Edward til he was 14 years.

Annie Bullock nee Walsh raised a child Leslie John (no birth cert) who was not likely to be hers as well. He is not the right age to be one of Cecilia Walsh's either.

I do appreciate your time and effort

cheers Deb

You have the same problem as I have with a quite common family name to trace.

I notice you have already sourced certificates. Are you using a transcription agent. It is much cheaper and you can decided how much and exactly what information you need from the certificates. Just google NSW transcription service. For the important things I purchase the certificates but if I'm just following up leads and need to confirm information I use the transcription service.

None of these names ring a bell but they would be related as I think there was a lot of Walsh's.
John's daughter Annie married William Bullock and lived at Uralla which was very close to Walcha Annie lived and worked at Gostwyck a property at walcha.
Cecilia was working at Ohio a property in the same area when she met John Walsh.
Cecilia was the daughter of convict John Quinlan her grandmother Margaret Quinlan was a convict as well.

It appears that some of Cecilia's children just disappeared

I am wondering if James Walsh may have been the Paul James Walsh that I have been looking for. Lots of people used their middle name

I did find a John walsh resigned as locomotive cleaner at Amidale station 1893. right or wrong John Walsh is the question.
cheers Deb

In the 1930 and 1936 Electoral Roll there is a
John Francis Quinlan, Day's Mountain, Walcha, labourer

There are no persons with the family name Cooper in 1930 or 1936.

1936 WALSH on Electoral Roll in the Walcha area
Not certain whether Winterbourne is a place or a name

Edward Peter, Glen Morrison labourer
Denis, Winterbourne Walcha grazier
James, Woodbine, Walcha labourer
John Walter, Winterbourne, labourer
Joseph Meredith, Clonmel, Yarrowitch, grazier.
Patricia, Apsley Street, Walcha, home duties
William Charles Patrick, Walcha, drover
Thomas Joseph, Rathmore, Apsley St, labourer

This is the WALSH family names registered at Walcha in the 1930 Electoral Roll NSW Armidale division

Caroline, Walcha Home Duties
James, Woodbine Walcha labourer
John Walter, Winterbourne, labourer
Joseph Meredith, Walcha, grazier
Patricia, Walcha, Book-keeper
William Charles Patrick, Walcha, drover

I think Woodbine and Winterbourne may be properties

OK hang on a while and i"ll sort out the electoral roll stuff for you. All it tells you is where John Walsh lived in those two dates but it is handy to have. Just had an idea. be back.

Hi Aunty,

I have been looking at nsw bmd and I have purchased a lot certs. John Walsh has is one I just cann't find not from the want of trying. It looks like other family members raised most of the children. I have found a lot through bmd as well as millitary and railway sites.

I am not a member of ancestry but starting to think it may be the way to go.
I will have a try at the electoral roll I have also looked at Australian Archives but too many John Walsh's. No luck ther with Thomas Cooper either.

cheers Deb

Deb This needs a different approach. I can find all sorts of Thomas Coopers born and died in the vicinty of the Walcha area give or take a few hundred miles.

i don't know what I am looking at, or if it is relevant to you. Are you accessing the NSW BDM web site. It is free and gives you all the searching you need for births deaths and marriages in NSW between the allowable dates. If you are accessing that web site all I am doing is duplicating your research.

I am going to turn my searching to UK and look for John Walsh. He does not appear in any NSW records for his birth.

17863/1893 COOPER THOMAS THOMAS H CELIA INVERELL

OK What is this one telling us?

That Thomas Cooper was born in 1893. His parents were Thomas H and Celia. And hyou already have that info.

http://content.ancestry.com.au/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=1207&path=New+South+Wales.1930.New+England.Walcha

Deb do you have Ancestry. Or are you able to access Electoral Rolls for 1930 and 1936 for NSW. This shortcut gives you the Electoral Roll info for John Walsh and several other Walsh's who lived in the Walcha area in 1930.

I do not know how to cut and paste it onto here so I have just put the shortcut. If you can't access the info let me know and I will copy it out. You can then do the same for the Cooper and Quinlan names and see what comes up.

Thankx for your replys

I have the marriage record you refer to There is some mispelt names, but it is the right one .

I do not have a clue as to whether John Walsh was born here or not.
John fathered :
Richard , William, Annie, Cecilia, Paul, Mary & Margaret.

Thomas Cooper Fathered:
Conrad, Thomas, Florence & Edward

Thomas parents are james Cooper and Ann Saunders

Cecilia died 1903 as Celia Cooper
Deb

OK read your post with more care. Here are the Thomas Hs and plain Thomas's deaths between 1930 and 1941

26859/1938 COOPER THOMAS THOMAS JOHANNA MORUYA
12322/1933 COOPER THOMAS THOMAS MARIA LIVERPOOL
9379/1933 COOPER THOMAS 56 YEARS COWRA COWRA
21064/1941 COOPER THOMAS PETER MARY GOULBURN
3072/1933 COOPER THOMAS 49 YEARS R P A HOSPITAL NEWTOWN
9597/1931 COOPER THOMAS THOMAS H MARGARET WEST MAITLAND
5003/1930 COOPER THOMAS 7O YRS FORBES FORBES
12432/1930 COOPER THOMAS 72 YRS ANNANDALE ANNANDALE
2627/1935 COOPER THOMAS A GEORGE AMY A GLEBE
10752/1939 COOPER THOMAS DAVID ALEXANDER MARY EMMAVILLE
20030/1932 COOPER THOMAS H HENRY A MARGARET R KEMPSEY
4610/1933 COOPER THOMAS H S VERNON FLORENCE E MANLY

If you are not familiar with Oz use Google Maps to locate the districts/towns and work out the distance from Walcha area.

These are the John Walsh's born in NSW between 1850 and 1855. The jolly nuisance with all of this is that there are no district recorded (and there usually is).

Are you sure he was born in Australia. Have you searched passenger lists coming to Australia between 1850 and 1871. "Orrible time span to search someone with a fairly usual name!!

By the way the last two names in the list are the parents names.

V18541219 71/1854 WALSH JOHN PATRICK AGNES
V1850117 67/1850 WALSH JOHN JOHN CAROLINE
V185153 68/1851 WALSH JOHN T THOMAS ANASTASIA
V1855978 72/1855 WALSH JOHN L HENRY CATHERINE
V18543787 72/1854 WALSH JOHN A JAMES LOUISA
V1850263 141/1850 WALSH JOHN JOHN CAROLINE
V18511106 141/1851 WALSH JOHN T THOMAS ANASTASIA

Tried searching Queensland for births of the other children came up blank. Do you have any notion about which children were born to which "husband". Have you searched Cooper as well as Walsh.

OK. Here is their marriage from NSW BDM

1537/1871 WALSH JOHN QUINLAIN CELIA ARMIDALE

Have you accessed this site. I will continue to search and post what I find

Hmmm I see what you mean. Plan A attack B

Cecilia Quinlan married John Walsh 1871 Walcha NSW Australia
I am trying to find info on William John b: 1873, Paul James b: 1880, Mary Jane b: 1882, all possibly born Walcha.

John Walsh i would like info as I can not find record of birth or death

Cecilia then had relations with Thomas Harvey Cooper b: Canterbury England 1854. I am unable to find a death for.
Thomas Harvey Cooper b: 1893 at Inverell nsw

I believe Cecilia had 11 children in all

I have info on Richard b: abt 1871, Annie b: 1875, Cecilia b: 1878, Margaret b: 1884, Albert Cooper b: 1891, Florence b: 1896, Edward b: 1898

Deb