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Trying to find Frances White b.1839 Reading, children Eliza b.1863 Middlesex St Lukes, Emma b.1870 Middx St Lukes, Joseph b.1874 Middx St Lukes.

Already have 1881/1891 census but am trying to find prior to 1881.

Would be grateful for any help.

1881 just for info
Name: Frances White
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Reading, Berkshire, England

Civil Parish: St Luke
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 2 Banks Court
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Laundress

Registration district: Holborn
Sub registration district: Finsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza White 18 St Lukes
Emma White 11 St Lukes
Frances White 42
Joseph White 7

Smurf,
I'm hoping to find out who her husband was before she was widowed.
I have a Joseph White b.1874 on his marriage cert and am looking for possible parents. I know his father was Joseph and deceased at the time of Joseph Jnrs marriage, but am trying to find Joseph snr prior to this and was hoping that Frances was his widow!

Smurf,
I've just re-read my last reply and realised how garbled it was - sorry, let me explain.

I have a Joseph White born in 1874 (according to his marriage cert). His father on his marriage cert is also a Joseph White (deceased). I am trying to find the family of Joseph Jnr before he married.
I was really wondering if Frances could have been Joseph Snr's wife.
Hope this makes more sense.
Luisha

Occupation of father from the marriage cert would be useful

unfortunately there is no occupation - only that he was deceased.

I have looked on BMD but no luck. I'm not even sure if Joseph Snr was born in London. I know I'm looking for the proverbial needle, but am living in Middle East and cannot gain access to parish records etc.

Any assistance gratefully received!

1861 just posting this one while I have a think on it

Name: Francis White
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Reading, Berkshire, England

Civil Parish: St Luke
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: St Luke
Sub registration district: Old Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 241
Household Members: Name Age
Francis White 25
Francis Sophia White 2



Listed as Head, wife but no sign of a husband


Will just add this in case there is a connection
Marriages Dec 1879 (>99%)
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Kenning Emily Shoreditch 1c 316
RHIND William John Shoreditch 1c 316
White Frances Sophia Shoreditch 1c 316
Wiley Joseph Shoreditch 1c 316

I did look for marriages - no luck though (unless I missed something, which is quite possible!).

am popping out for 20 mins - have not left for good.

I could also be barking completely up the wrong tree of course.

Unfortunately, Frances was married to a White, therefore this can't be the marriage because Joseph White is the husband I am looking for.

Thanks anyway Smurf.

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