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12 Mar 2009 02:04 |
Hello I think I may have found the family of my great grandmother - Florence Horner (nee White). At the time of my grandfathers birth, Florence (or Flo) was living in camberwell, London. The White Family, however seem to come from Eversley, Hants. THe Dad was called Robert, born 1859 I believe and the mum was called Sarah. They had 8 children. I am sure that this the right family - and just wondered if anyone could shed any light on the family - and why/how they ended up in London? Mygreat grandmothers name was Florence Winifred White and at the time of the 1901 census they were all living with an elderly aunt by the name of Jane Bartlett in a place called The Green. thanks for your help:) Regards - jessica
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12 Mar 2009 06:02 |
Hi Jessica
We need a bit more info
date and place of birth of Florence when and where did she marry.
specify which census years records you have found them on exact location
where is "The Green" ?
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12 Mar 2009 06:04 |
this looks like them in 1891 but no florence
Name: Robert White Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Yateley, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Eversley Ecclesiastical parish: Eversley St Mary Town: Eversley County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Hartley Wintney Sub registration district: Hartley Wintney ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert White 31 Yateley, Hampshire Sarah White 32 Woodley, Berkshire Annie L White 9 Ernest G White 7 Robert W White 5 Charles H White 3 Miriam J White 1 Jane Barlett 65 Aunt b. Sonning, Berkshire Harry J Earle 26 lodger Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 956; Folio 92; Page 7; GSU roll: 6096066.
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12 Mar 2009 06:05 |
Births Sep 1898 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WHITE Florence Winifred Hartley W. 2c 193
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12 Mar 2009 06:14 |
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Name: Florence White Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: Eversley, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Eversley Ecclesiastical parish: Eversley St Mary Town: Eversley County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Hartley Wintney Sub registration district: Hartley Wintney ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 50 Household Members: Name Age Robert Whiten 43 Plumber and painter Sarah Whiten 44 Anna L Whiten 19 Ernest G Whiten 17 Robert D Whiten 15 Charles H Whiten 13 Mirian E Whiten 11 John White 7 Arthur White 6 Florence White 3 Jane Bartlett 76 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1106; Folio: 107; Page: 7.
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12 Mar 2009 13:31 |
hi - thanks for your help. It was in the 1901 census that Florence showed up. My great nan was Florence Winifred White - and we believed she was born in 1898. Well, I could only find ONE Florence Winifred White born from 1897-1900 - so this must be her. I also knew that her dad was called bert - which ties in with the Robert name. As a family, we knew nothing about her brothers and sisters - ;let alone she was one onf 8! She must have ended up in London, because her marriage is registered in Camberwell in 1923 - and she becomes HORNER. She then gave birth to my grandad in 1923 too! I think she caused a bit of a stir because she married a man nearly 30 years older than her (Frank Horner snr) and we knew little else about her. My Dad thought that the family lived in Tottenham London and maybe they did at some point. I still firmly believe that the Florence W WHite that I have found must be her due to the lack of other Florence Winifreds! I was just wondering how the family ended up in London and if anyone can tell me a bit more about the White family.
Thanks again for all your help. regards - jessica
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12 Mar 2009 20:13 |
Marriages Jun 1923 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Horner Frank White Camberwell 1d 1522
White Florence W Horner Camberwell 1d 1522
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12 Mar 2009 20:20 |
Births Dec 1923 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **** Horner Frank J White Camberwell 1d 1238
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1926 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Horner Jean White Durham 10a 697
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1927 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Horner Nora L White Birmingham N. 6d 814
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1928 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HORNER Arthur I White Auckland 10a 405
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1930 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Horner Freda White Auckland 10a 460
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1934 (92%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Horner Edmund A W White Sculcoates 9d 215
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12 Mar 2009 20:30 |
Deaths Dec 1903 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bartlett Jane 77 Hartley Wintney 2c 115
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12 Mar 2009 20:40 |
Marriages Mar 1881 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BARTLETT Sarah Reading 2c 473
WHITE Robert Reading 2c 473
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Name: Robert White Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Son Father's Name: George Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Yateley, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Yateley County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: Church End Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Plumber Registration district: Hartley Wintney Sub registration district: Farnborough ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age George White 60 Yateley, Hampshire Plumber Ann White 60 Winkfield, Berkshire Anne White 23 Robert White 21 Elizabeth Cranham 2 Granddaughter b. Yateley
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1251; Folio: 104; Page: 23; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341306.
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12 Mar 2009 20:42 |
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Name: Robert White Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Son Father's Name: George Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Yateley, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Yateley Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Yateley County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Name Age George White 47 Ann White 49 William White 17 Anne White 14 Robert White 12 Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1231; Folio: 68; Page: 23; GSU roll: 827831.
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12 Mar 2009 20:43 |
Name: Robert White Year of Registration: 1859 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Farnborough (1847-69) County: Hampshire, Surrey, Sussex Volume: 2a Page: 89
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12 Mar 2009 20:50 |
1871 Name: Sarah Bartlett Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Charles Mother's Name: Miriam (nee Huggins) Gender: Female Where born: Woodley, Berkshire, England Civil Parish: Sonning Ecclesiastical parish: Early St Peter County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Wokingham Sub registration district: Wargrave ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 85 Household Members: Name Age Charles Bartlett 40 Woodley Labourer Miriam Bartlett 39 Woodley Sarah Bartlett 12 William Bartlett 12 George Bartlett 10 James Bartlett 8 John Bartlett 4 Infant Bartlett 1 month (Daniel) Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1289; Folio: 43; Page: 19; GSU roll: 827857.
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12 Mar 2009 20:53 |
Births Jun 1858 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bartlett Sarah Wokingham 2c 347
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Name: Sarah White [Sarah Bartlett] Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Charles Mother's Name: Miriam Gender: Female Where born: Earley, Berkshire, England Civil Parish: Sonning County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Street address: Bulmershe Park Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Plumbers Wife Registration district: Wokingham Sub registration district: Wargrave ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charles Bartlett 50 Gap manager Miriam Bartlett 48 Sarah White 22 William Bartlett 20 George Bartlett 18 James Bartlett 14 John Bartlett 12 Daniel Bartlett 10 Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1313; Folio: 4; Page: 1; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341319.
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12 Mar 2009 21:17 |
1911 WHITE, ROBERT HEAD MARRIED M 51 PLUMBER AND HOUSE PAINTER YATELEY HANTS WHITE, SARAH WIFE MARRIED 30 F 52 HOUSE WIFE WOODLEY BERKS WHITE, ARTHUR SON SINGLE M 16 POST OFFICE CLERK EVERSLEY HANTS WHITE, FLORICE DAUGHTER SINGLE F 13 SCHOOL EVERSLEY HANTS DOWNHAM, SAMUEL BOARDER SINGLE M 78 FARM LABOURER OLD AGE PENSIONER TUNWORTH HANTS BUTCHER, SYDNEY BOARDER SINGLE M 23 CHANFFEUR DOMESTIC GUILDFORD SURREY
WHITE FLORICE (RG14PN6266 RG78PN298 RD109 SD3 ED3 SN9) Address POST OFFICE EVERSLEY WINCHFIELD HANTS County Hampshire District Hartley Wintney Subdistrict Hartley Wintney Enumeration District 3 Parish
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12 Mar 2009 21:25 |
Suggest that you get the marriage certificate of Florence and Frank Horner, it may give as to the move to London, it should give the address of where they were living and occupations.
It looks as though they might have had to get married !
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12 Mar 2009 23:57 |
hi thanks for advice and help. Great Nan Flo was quite a character - and had a colourful past so we are led to believe. It seems strange that frank horner was SO MUCH older then her (he in his 50s and her in her 20s) and she never married again or had any other children other then my grandad frank. she kept her past a bit of a secret and no one even knew if she had brothers or sisters! I think it was definately a case of having to get married! My dad found her death cert and despite him always thinking that she came from london - it showed she was born in Aldershot. This is all quite similar - and it is hard to get as the locations/boundaries have changed over the years. i think that is strenghtens my belief this is the right family as no one had ever found/mentioned that they came from out london before. it is all good stuff! thanks again for your help. jess :)
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