Genealogy Chat

Hi all.
For years I have been placing flowers on a previously unmarked grave of an Ann Burns whom I and other family members believed to be our great great grandmother (Spion Kop cemetry Hartlepool). Imagine our surprise when only last week we found
out this was the wrong Ann Burns also born in 1832, and lived in the same street.
We have been unable to locate the death of Ann Burns also her husband David. So that we may put flowers on the correct grave! They were married in Hartlepool in 1874, 9th
October.
Please can anyone help? Thank you so much.
Olwyn

when was the last sighting of them .do you have them on any census .

is this them on the 1881 census
Name: Ann Burns
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: David
Gender: Female
Where born: Robin Hood Bay, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Hartlepool
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address: 3 Wood St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Laundress

Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
David Burns 47 occ Sailor
Ann Burns 47
William Grainger 17 son
Fredrick Harding 17 Lodger




Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4906; Folio: 137; Page: 52; Line: ; GSU roll: 1342180.

This of any help ?

Name: Ann Burns
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 67
District: Hartlepool (1859-1938)
County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 90 (click to see

A possibility for David ?

Name: David Burns
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 71
District: South Shields
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 484 (click to see ot

Just for info this looks like son william on the 1901 census
Name: William Grainger
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Bridget
Gender: Male
Where born: Hartlepool, Durham, England

Civil parish: Hartlepool
Ecclesiastical parish: Hartlepool St Hilda
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:21 George Street

Occupation:Shipyard Labourer

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 255
Household Members: Name Age
William Grainger 36
Bridget Grainger 33
William Grainger 9
James Grainger 8
Eva Grainger 3
Margaret Grainger 1


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Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4635; Folio: 117; Page: 42.

Ann on the 1891 census
Name: Ann Burns
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Robin Hoods Bay, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Hartlepool
Ecclesiastical parish: Hartlepool St Hildas
Town: Hartlepool
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:9 Wood Street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:WIDOW

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Hartlepool
Sub-registration district: Hartlepool
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Burton 53 occ Mariner (Seas)
Jane Burton 49
Jane Burton 20
Robt H Burton 17
Mary Ann Burton 15
Harriett Burton 13
Ann Burns 58




Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4059; Folio 144; Page 12; GSU roll: 6099169.

Interesting then she is a widow by 1891 so maybe David died at Sea. She is living in the same street as the 1881 census but 4 doors away at no 9

Cant find her on the 1901 census but picked up the same death as Alan . Right reg district too as per the 1891 census
Name: Ann Burns
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 67
District: Hartlepool (1859-1938)
County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 90

Anyone seen Olwyn ??

Perhaps the one who died in 1882 aged 71 was his dad as David was only 47 on the 1881 census

Hi again
Sorry, i had to go out. All census info spot on!
Deaths; David - He was 42 when marrying Ann Oct 1874, so was born 1832ish depending on birthdate. Only info i have is, he was a Scottish sailor. Sadly, it doesnt seem that he can be either of those you have kindly located, as first 1 reg in 1904; 2nd one born around 1811. Great searching, I will get a copy cert anyway, as you say could be his Dad.

Death Ann
This is where I went wrong, very coincidently, this Ann was the same age, and lived in the same street, different no, her husband named John, son James.
She died in sad circumstances outside her house.
On the son's death cert states father John signed with a cross, whereas David Burns signed his marriage cert as David Burns - no middle name stated . James Burns is buried with his mother Ann Burns at the cemetry you have identified, which is where we keep putting flowers.
Incidently, Wood street figures greatly in my family, they have lived at many different houses there.

Perhaps David did die at sea, what is best way to find that out?
I have really enjoyed your help.

Thank you so much
Olwyn