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Bridgette

Bridgette Report 26 Jan 2012 18:02

Hi everyone and thanks for all your help, but Im sorry to say that Im no further forward than I was last time I was here.

Right this is what I have so far, Im still trying to find out if William Cobley born 1835 in Leicester, had any brothers and sisters.

He married Emma (Northampton)
Had 3 children
Ernest age 11(Barnet)
Helena age 10 (Blackfriars)
Gertrude age 7 (Walworth)

From 1881 census he ran a pub called the ship York Tavern in Rotherhithe London.

William in now married to Sarah age 40 and in 1891 they live in a pub called The Commercial in Hern Hill London.
Ernest 21 Pub Manager/son
Helena 20 Mantle Saleswoman ?
Gertrude 17 Millinery Dress

What do I do next?
Has William got any family, Mum, Dad, Brothers and Sisters?
Were did he die?

Thanks for all your help
PS Why is this family tree stuff so hard to do?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 26 Jan 2012 18:06

Which census have you found him on ?

Got any marriage certs?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 26 Jan 2012 18:12

Name: Gertrude Elizabeth Cobley
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1884
Baptism Date: 21 Mar 1884
Father's Name: William Cobley
Mother's name: Emma Elizabeth Cobley
Parish or Poor Law Union: Rotherhithe St Barnabas
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers


And on the same day

Name: Helena Beatrice Cobley
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1884
Baptism Date: 21 Mar 1884
Father's Name: William Cobley
Mother's name: Emma Elizabeth Cobley
Parish or Poor Law Union: Rotherhithe St Barnabas
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers


Name: William Ernest Cobley
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1884
Baptism Date: 21 Mar 1884
Father's Name: William Cobley
Mother's name: Emma Elizabeth Cobley
Parish or Poor Law Union: Rotherhithe St Barnabas
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 26 Jan 2012 18:13

Name: Helena Beatrice Cobley
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1897
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1d
Page Number: 497


James Crockford or William Gardner

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 26 Jan 2012 18:20

?
Marriages Sep 1866 (>99%)
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BOTHAM Emma E Kensington 1a 331
BOURNE Bertha Kensington 1a 331
COBLEY William Kensington 1a 331
HANDOVER Thomas Kensington 1a 331


Name: Emma Elizabeth Botham
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 19 Jul 1866
Parish: Holy Trinity, Paddington
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: John Botham
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Cobley - baker
Register Type: Parish Registers


For some reason William is missing from the Ancestry Transcription

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 26 Jan 2012 18:26

:-S


1881 still married to Emma

Name: William Cobley
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma Cobley
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicestershire, England

Civil parish: Rotherhithe
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: Ship York P H
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Publican

Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: Rotherhithe
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 576
Folio: 117
Page Number: 41
Household Members: Name Age
William Cobley 46
Emma Cobley 48
Ernest Cobley 11
Helena Cobley 10
Gertrude Cobley 7
Emma Garner 32
Alice Boulter 22
Mary Cushing 23
William Jackson 17



When and where did he marry Sarah ?

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Jan 2012 18:30

1871 England Census
about William Cobley Name: William Cobley
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma Cobley
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicestershire, England
Civil parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: Christchurch Southwark
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 189
Piece: 592
Folio: 53
Page Number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
William Cobley 38
Emma Cobley 39
Ernest Cobley 1
Helena Cobley 2 Months
Emma Schwartz 19


1891 England Census
about William Cobley Name: William Cobley
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah M Cobley
Gender: Male
Where born: Shearsby, Leicestershire, England

Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: East Brixton St Judes
Town: Brixton
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 412
Folio: 98
Page Number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
William Cobley 45
Sarah M Cobley 40
Ernest W Cobley 21
Helena B Cobley 20
Gertrude E Cobley 17
William L Cobley 3
Lucy L Walker 25
Edith Upward 23
Annie Wakeling 18


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about William Cobley Name: William Cobley
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Spouse Name: Sarah Maria Walker
Spouse Age: 35
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 23 Jun 1886
Parish: Herne Hill
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Thomas Cobley >> deceased Baker
Spouse Father Name: Samuel Wiltshire Walker
Register Type: Parish Register

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 26 Jan 2012 18:32



1851 England Census
about William Cobley Name: William Cobley
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Cobley
Mother's name: Elizabeth Cobley
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Shearsby, Leicestershire, England

Civil parish: Leicester All Saints
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: West Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 2e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 43
Piece: 2090
Folio: 115
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Cobley 49 >> BAKER
Elizabeth Cobley 45
Ann Cobley 18
William Cobley 16
James Cobley 12


Kay????

Kay???? Report 26 Jan 2012 18:42

Bapt,
William Cobley

Birth ------ 8th July 1834,
Bapt------- 14 Sept 1834

Independent Wigston Magna Leicester,

Parents,

Thoms Cobley and Elizabeth.
---------------------------------

Possible Marriage?

1829..15th April Kirkby Mallory Leicester.

Thomas Cobley and Elizabeth Tomlinson.

Info from extracted parish records as on IGI.