Genealogy Chat

I'll put the info in a Reply - or no-one will have a chance of understanding! It might be worth sending me a PM if you do find them because they aren't part of my main project (ancestral chart), so I may not be very diligent about checking this thread, but they niggle... WHY can't I find any trace of them after 1881? I don't want any money spent looking for them, but I'd just like to know where they went.

My info sources are supposed to be in [square brackets] Thomas (Waldren) CHRISTMAS: 5'7', brown hair, grey eyes, fair complexion; no wounds/scares/marks [Seaman 53246] b 1841 Basingstoke [1881] 1841Q2 Basingstoke 7-43 b 28 Mar 1842, Basingstoke [Seaman 53246] bap 9.7.1841 Basingstoke [C136542] 1841HO107-385: ? age 10 mo; London St, Basingstoke 1851HO107-1679: age 10, scholar; Briar Cottage, Farringdon, Hants 1861RG9/4441: age 20, S, ord seaman; Royal Navy, HMS Exmouth m 1871RG10-5782: age 29, AB (RN); HMS Narcissus 1 Jan - 12 Feb 1873: HMS Achilles, AB, [Seaman 53246] 13 Feb 1873 - 31 Mar 1875: HMS Achilles (Cadgwith), boatman [Seaman 53246] 1 Apr 1875 - 31 Jan 1877: HMS Warrior (Cadgwith), boatman [Seaman 53246] 1 Feb - 5 Mar 1877: HMS Warrior (Cadgwith), Cdr boatman [Seaman 53246] 6 Mar 1877 - 27 Apr 1878: HMS Warrior (Porthellic), Cdr boatman [Seaman 53246] 28 Apr - 19 Aug 1878: HMS Warrior (Porthellic), AB, Cd boatman [Seaman 53246] 20 Aug 1878 - 14 May 1879: HMS Warrior (Porthellic), AB, Cd boatman, diver [Seaman 53246] 1881RG11-2319: aged 41, grocer; 2 West St, St Gluvias, Cornwall doesn't show in Kelly's Dir'y Cornwall 1889 for grocer in St G WIFE - Julia x: b 1843-4 Plymouth [1881C] m 1871RG10-2117: age 24; 16 Wyndham Sq, Plymouth 1881RG11-2319: age 36; 2 West St, St Gluvias, Cornwall CHILDREN: Julia Maud CHRISTMAS: b 1867-8 Plymouth [1881C] 1867Q2 E Stonehouse 5b-321 bap 1871RG10-2117: age 4; 16 Wundham Sq, Plymouth 'Julia' 1881RG11-2319: aged 13, scholar, 2 West St, St Gluvias, Cornwall Sidney/Sydney Thomas CHRISTMAS: b 1870 Plymouth [1881C] 1870 Q2 Plymouth 5b-299 bap 1871RG10-2117: age 9 m; 16 Wyndham Sq, Plymouth 1881RG11-2319: aged 10, scholar, 2 West St, St Gluvias, Cornwall 'Rosey' Rosa Annie CHRISTMAS: b 1873Q3 Helston 5c/219 [FreeBMD] 1873-4 Cadgwith [1881C] bap 1881RG11-2319: aged 7, scholar, 2 West St, St Gluvias, Cornwall Lillian / Lilian May CHRISTMAS: b 1876-7 Cadgwith [1881C] 1876Q4 Helston 5c/196 [FreeBMD] bap 1881RG11-2319: aged 4, scholar, 2 West St, St Gluvias, Cornwall Blanche Irian CHRISTMAS: b 1878-9 Helford Passage [1881C] 1879Q1 Falmouth 5c/190 bap 1881RG11-2319: aged 2, 2 West St, St Gluvias, Cornwall probably also: Minnie CHRISTMAS regd Falmouth 1881Q4 5c/181

I've tried looking for likely BMD changes in the FreeBMD database on Ancestry (no batches of deaths) and I've tried looking for CHRISTMASes b in Cornwall in the censuses for 1891 and 1901. That's not to say that someone else wouldn't find them, even though I couldn't, of course! The only things I can think of are: 1] They all went to Scotland or Ireland 2] they all emigrated to USA/Canada/Australia/New Zealand Christine

Perhaps Merry can help???!!! Kat :) Christine, if YOU can't find them how do you expect anyone else to? LOL However if I find any on my travels I'll let you know.

We have a Robert Christmas b c1842 London, England in our tree - m. Mary Caroline King and both died here in NSW [12Jul1898 and 31Oct1944 respectively], Australia. We have no info of when the Christmas's arrived. His wife was born here. Not sure if he's related to your mob so perhaps you could try our state library's BDM register for others: http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/ There's also many shipping registers/mariners records online and some info from 'firstfamilies 2001' [through http://pandora.nla.gov.au/tep/10421 or try: http://www.firstfamilies2001.net.au/ which lists names of arrivals in the 1800s] Good luck. rgds, Heather (p.s. - each of the main states in Australia has their own online bdm register spanning different years; the major ports where Aussie 'pioneers' would have landed are Sydney, Melbourne and Perth)

Thanks, Katarzyna and Heather. I suppose I don't really expect you to find them if I can't - but I can always hope that someone might spot them and let me know. At least, as a set, they have quite interesting names! Thanks for the Australia research tips. I have some relevant links already bookmarked, but the background info and extra URLs are always welcome. Might trigger a new lead! thanks Christine