Genealogy Chat

This reminds me of the thirteen commandments thread. I'm sure there was one on there mentining family stories which were common knowledge until proved otherwise, then all knowledge denied. Thanks Georgina, it all makes sense. Well spotted, I wasn't even looking at Harry, I was looking for Henry's! I will ask the next question over the weekend, again, it will all need verification with certs, but I like to make sure I am heading in the right direction.

Teresa there is a Mary Ann Robertson born Liverpool who is a servant in West Ham on the 1881 census... Andrew Gray abt 1851 Stepney, Middlesex, England Head 8 Argyle Terrace Water Lane, West Ham, Essex, England Elizabeth Gray abt 1852 St Georges E, Middlesex, England Wife 8 Argyle Terrace Water Lane, West Ham, Essex, England Horace Norman Gray abt 1877 Stratford, Essex, England Son 8 Argyle Terrace Water Lane, West Ham, Essex, England Mary Ann Robertson abt 1862 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Servant 8 Argyle Terrace Water Lane, West Ham, Essex, England Georgina.

Georgina, you are a star! As you can gather, there has been a bit of a family dispute, and I have always promised to try to settle this. I will of course get Christina's birth cert asap, but an extra pair of eyes have now found a possible marriage I had missed. Thank you xx T PS this ties in with a family story that Mary was orphaned and brought up by aunts in Plaistow.

This looks like Harry's marriage.. Marriages Mar 1882 Mortlock Harry Poplar 1c 830 Rawlings Annie Poplar 1c 830 ROBERTSON Mary Poplar 1c 830 SARGENT John Poplar 1c 830 Georgina.

1901 census still the same wife... Christina Mortlock abt 1889 Plaistow, Essex, England Daughter West Ham Essex Eleanor Mortlock abt 1885 Poplar, London, England Daughter West Ham Essex Elizabeth Mortlock abt 1895 Plaistow, Essex, England Daughter West Ham Essex Harold Mortlock abt 1893 Plaistow, Essex, England Son West Ham Essex Harry Mortlock abt 1862 Poplar, London, England Head West Ham Essex Harry G Mortlock abt 1883 Poplar, London, England Son West Ham Essex James Mortlock abt 1899 Plaistow, Essex, England Son West Ham Essex Mary Mortlock abt 1862 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Wife West Ham Essex William Mortlock abt 1887 Plaistow, Essex, England Son West Ham Essex Source information: RG13/1574 Registration district: West Ham Sub-registration district: Plaistow ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Folio: 23 Page: 38 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 227 Georgina.

Perhaps she was a widow when she married - born Mary Robertson, married Mr Macintosh, who then died. But you won't know until you get a cert! jay

Welcome Teresa, just posting this info for reference is this Christina in 1891... Chestina Mortlock abt 1889 Plaistow, Essex, England Daughter West Ham Essex Eleanor M Mortlock abt 1885 Poplar, London, England Daughter West Ham Essex Harry Mortlock abt 1860 Poplar, London, England Head West Ham Essex Harry G Mortlock abt 1883 Poplar, London, England Son West Ham Essex Mary Mortlock abt 1861 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Wife West Ham Essex William R Mortlock abt 1887 Poplar, London, England Son West Ham Essex Source information: RG12/1325 Registration district: West Ham Sub registration district: West Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 39 Folio: 133 Page: 72 (click to see others on page) GSU Number: 6096435 Georgina.

Thanks for that. I am trying to prioritise my certs list, I think this is one I will have to put up the top of my list. T

Oh, welcome aboard too! nell

The way to find out a woman's maiden surname is to either find her marriage cert or the birth cert of one of her children. You could find umpteen Mary MacIntoshes and Mary Robertsons on the census but you won't know whether or not they are the right woman without a cert. nell

First of all, I would just like to say that I have been watching and reading these boards for the last three months, and the amount of help I have had from all the regulars on here is priceless! Just by being nosey I have found out where to look for certain things, been to sites I never knew existed, and learned a lot about the people on here too. So thanks to all those who freely give assistance to those who are new to this, or who have hit the many brick walls, figured out riddles when the answers can’t be seen for looking etc etc. I know one or two have been upset on here recently, but we are all grown-ups and able to take certain comments on the chin, so why don’t we and carry on enjoying what we do. Keep it up guys, because without you, I would have been lost a long time ago. Cheers xx Now to my questions. On my Dads side, I can’t figure out who my GGG Grandmother is. My Grandfather is Frederick George Henry Morse, born West Ham, 1912 His parents are William John Morse b 1886 d. 1949 West Ham, and Christina Mortlock, b. 1888 d. 1930. West Ham. They married in Dec quarter of 1906 in Poplar. Christina’s father, (according to my G Aunt, now no longer around to ask) is Henry Mortlock, and he married (again according to G Aunt) Mary Macintosh. I have found a Henry and Mary on the census (forget which one but not 1901) and it states that Mary was born in Liverpool. ….then brick wall. Now, my Grandfather always said the family name is Robertson, while his sister (said G Aunt) swore it was Macintosh. I can find Mary Robertsons born in Liverpool around the time I think I should be looking, but no Mary Macintosh’s. If anyone can find a small clue to point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it. Sorry it’s so long winded.

Hi all, I just got my membership through to GR. I have a couple of questions (pleas for help) see below