Genealogy Chat

I have the birth certificate for Samuel Cooper born June 1848. This shows a time of birth which I understand indicates that he is a twin. I have looked up his birth with Ancestry which shows 'Wolstanton xvii 339' Should his twin necessarily be the next number? There are two other Coopers in the same quarter but the numbers are not xviii or xvi.

there are 7 Samuel coopers born June quarter 1848 on 1837 looks like all are different areas though

Valerie I have no problem with Samuel It's his twin I want to find

You need to find a birth with the same surname, year, quarter, reg district, volume and page number. Some registrars routinely put time of birth on the cert. nell

You could also try a baptism record. This appears to be him in 1851 without a twin: Wolstanton Staffordshire John Cooper abt 1819 Wolstanton,, Head Hannh Cooper abt 1822 Burslem, Staffs, Wife Mary Cooper abt 1847 Wolstanton,daughter Samuel Cooper abt 1849 Wolstanton, Son Ennas Cooper abt 1850 Wolstanton, Daughter nell

This appears to be his baptism: IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles SAMUEL COOPER Christening: 16 JUL 1848 Wolstanton, Stafford, Parents: Father: JOHN COOPER Mother: HANNAH Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: C010032 1842 - 1875 0497357

Samuel is the only child baptised with those parents in 1848. nell

http://www.dixons.clara.net/Certificates/births.htm If there is a time against the date of birth then there was more than one child born alive at the birth. If however a mother had twins, one liveborn and one stillborn, then the live born twin will not have a time against the birth. Until 1926 there were no registrations at all of a still born child. Having said that, again the early registrations are not consistent. The registrar in the Eton district did not put the times of births of twins in the registers at all until 1845 while the one in Stoke-on-Trent put times against all the registrations up until about 1850. It is possible to check for twins by looking for identical or consecutive GRO references in the indexes. These are all the cooper children born in th district in he same quarter as sam that are transcribed on FreeBMD. Births Jun 1848 Cooper John Wolstanton 17 5_6 Cooper Mary Wolstanton 17 11 Cooper Samuel Wolstanton 17 _39 Cooper Sarah Wolstanton 17 324 If Sam was a twin, the twin would be on either page 338, 339 or 340. As twins are always on either the same page or consecative pages.

Nell Many thanks for the information-I did have that all before. I had presumed that the twin died before baptism or the 1851 census. I didn't realise that the time of birth was sometimes added even if there was no twin. It seems that in this case there was no twin. Thanks again Barrie

Dear Barrie Have you tried looking at the next quarter? If they were born at the end of June they may not have been registered until the September quarter. Joan