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Vestry carman mystery 1901 census

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MrsMooMoo

MrsMooMoo Report 1 Mar 2006 17:37

I wonder if anyone can help me. I have been researching my Vickery family who hail from paddington. In the 1901 census, George the head of the house is found at the Royal Mineral Hospital in Bath having, I presume some treatment. Now my family appear to have been very poor so do you think it is likely that the vestry would have paid for this! I'm sure George wouldn't have been able to afford the trip there, let alone any treatment! I was wondering whether it would be possible to locate any record of George working for the church, If I could find out which one? Would they keep records of their carman do you think? I would appreciate any advice. Thankyou

Heather

Heather Report 1 Mar 2006 17:40

Why do you think he would be working for the church - does it acutally say vestry carman on the 1901? Have you found him earlier at all? Give us his name, dob and pob. please

Merry

Merry Report 1 Mar 2006 17:48

Yes, it does say ''Vestry Carman (Paddington)'', Heather..... George Vickery abt 1851 Paddington, Middlesex, England Patient Bath Somerset Merry

Heather

Heather Report 1 Mar 2006 18:24

Hi, unfortunately he is just a 'carman' on the 1891: I guess you already have this? Alfred E Vickery abt 1874 Marylebone, London, England Son Paddington London Alice M Vickery abt 1887 Paddington, London, England Daughter Paddington London Arthur Vickery abt 1880 Paddington, London, England Son Paddington London Elizabeth Vickery abt 1872 Marylebone, London, England Daughter Paddington London George Vickery abt 1848 Paddington, London, England Head Paddington London George J Vickery abt 1875 Marylebone, London, England Son Paddington London John Vickery abt 1879 Paddington, London, England Son Paddington London Martha Vickery abt 1854 Oxford, London, England Wife Paddington London

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Mar 2006 21:13

It could be he was operating a Vestry Road sweeper. Vestry was, & still is, a brand name for road sweeping machinery. Shirley

Heather

Heather Report 1 Mar 2006 21:17

Thats an ingenious idea - possible, eh? But well worth checking out if the local council would have employed him. Good thinking!

Angela now in Wilts (not North Devon)

Angela now in Wilts (not North Devon) Report 1 Mar 2006 21:33

Could this be him in 1851 – note birthplace of mother? Could be coincidence of course. Charles Vickery abt 1817 Tongham, Surrey, England Head Paddington Middlesex >>>> Eliza Vickery abt 1826 Bath, Somerset, England Wife Paddington Middlesex >>>>> George Vickery abt 1849 Marylebone Son Paddington Middlesex Henry Vickery abt 1845 Paddington Son Paddington Middlesex James Vickery abt 1847 St George Hanover Square Son Paddington Middlesex William Vickery abt 1851 Paddington Son Paddington Middlesex Angela

Unknown

Unknown Report 1 Mar 2006 21:53

Google vestry carman - your ancestor was not alone. nell

Heather

Heather Report 1 Mar 2006 22:44

Brilliant, so now he has a job and possibly a mum where he was staying to go to the hospital. Theres me thinking he couldnt have been that busy working for a church unless he was carting coffins about! You learn something new every day on here - wonderful isnt it. Nite nite

Pat-

Pat- Report 2 Mar 2006 00:16

Hi all, the vestry in question wasn't really to do with the church as such - it is just another name for the council before borough councils became the norm. it harks back to the days when the parish ran things, like they did the workhouses.

MrsMooMoo

MrsMooMoo Report 2 Mar 2006 19:39

Hi Thank you everyone for your feedback regarding my George. I didn't realise vestry was an old term for council. Perhaps he worked as a sweeper but I still wonder how he could afford to go to take the 'waters' at Bath! Perhaps a charity footed the bill or maybe a rich relative I don't know about! Thank you again

Heather

Heather Report 2 Mar 2006 19:42

Well actually Shirley pointed out it was the name of the sweeping machine (not just another name for a council) and Angela has found that his mother lived in Bath.