Genealogy Chat

Don't think anyone can help me with this tried before, but just need someone to tell me iam doing something wrong some were. My grt grandad John Thomas Shenton, have him on 1871=81-91-01 censuses. His death in 1939 aged 74 his marridge 1886 aged 21 but no birth no baptisam no registration.I have his father Enoch's family in Shelton Hanley back to 1841, can't find a marridge for sister Hannah but brother William i have found, he had a son Thomas in 1865, but no it's not my John Thomas i have him on 1871 census as well. Trying to find mothers family, got Elizabeth marridge to Enoch in 1863 in Bucknall cum Bagnall. Have first marridge to James Smith in 1851, but can't find her on 1861. May have her on 1851 but because there is no dad on it i can't prove it's the right one. Have dads name from marridge certs it's Robert Taylor. Someone tell me to give up and forget it Please. Gill

What about this one? Birth Jun 1866 Shenton John T Stoke Upon Trent 6b 202

may I? Don't think anyone can help me with this tried before, but just need someone to tell me iam doing something wrong some were. My grt grandad John Thomas Shenton, have him on 1871=81-91-01 censuses. His death in 1939 aged 74 his marridge 1886 aged 21 but no birth no baptisam no registration. I have his father Enoch's family in Shelton Hanley back to 1841, can't find a marridge for sister Hannah but brother William i have found, he had a son Thomas in 1865, but no it's not my John Thomas i have him on 1871 census as well. Trying to find mothers family, got Elizabeth marridge to Enoch in 1863 in Bucknall cum Bagnall. Have first marridge to James Smith in 1851, but can't find her on 1861. May have her on 1851 but because there is no dad on it i can't prove it's the right one. Have dads name from marridge certs it's Robert Taylor. Someone tell me to give up and forget it Please. Gill

Thanks Tracy but i think i have that one, i have sent for about 4 over the years. Gill

Be my guest Merry, lol

She's not this one... Eliza Taylor abt 1832 Hanley, Staffordshire, England Daughter Stoke upon Trent Staffordshire Her dad is John (in 1841) I can't find a Robert Taylor in Stoke in 1841. I did find this one though... Robert Taylor, 40, Ag Lab, No Sarah, 40, Yes Thomas, 15, Iron Miner Jane, 10 William, 10, Coal Miner Elizabeth, 5 Alfred, 2 Knutton Heath, Wolstanton.

Thanks Tracy it could be but on both marridge cert gives fathers name as Robert, but to be honest i can't find a Robert on any of the census returns. On the one i have for 1851 it say mother Mary is a widow but she has a i month old daughter, so in theary he should have been alive in 1841

Tracy just seen the rest, see these people are driving me mad lol That looks really promising, all excited now

The only people I can find to match in 1851 are these... George Randle abt 1803 Head Wolstanton Staffordshire Ellen Randle abt 1816 Wife Wolstanton Staffordshire William Randle abt 1830 Son Wolstanton Staffordshire Ann Randle abt 1832 Daughter Wolstanton Staffordshire Elizabeth Holland abt 1841 Daughter Wolstanton Staffordshire Robert Taylor abt 1795 Lodger Wolstanton Staffordshire Alfred Taylor abt 1841 Stepson Wolstanton Staffordshire

I have found that one, it's just that half the family are missing and it doesn't solve my problems with Elizabeth, but i do appreciate all your trouble Tracy, thankyou so much. Gill