Genealogy Chat

Thanks so much Sylvia. I have pm you but my messaging is playing up so not sure if you got a dozen messages or none. As you will know if you did get my message, I am a very happy bunny at the moment and just hope the film comes is useable and I can see my dad.

Hi, Here is the translation: ID no. 1337 Title: Couple of Down and Outs, A Year: 1923 Country: Great Britain Producer: W. Townend Company: Napoleon Films (Great Britain) Category: Fiction ------ Titles: Original Title: Couple of Down and Outs, A Dutch title: Twee overgeblevenen, De Country where produced: Great Britain Production company: Napoleon Films (Great Britain) Direction: Producer: Walter Summers, W. Townend Date, showing and distribution: Year of Production: 1923 Dutch hiring out (originally): AFC Film Cast: Actors: Rex Davis, Edna Best, George Foley, Philip Hewland Crew: Producer: G.B. Samuelson Description of contents: Soldier returns disillusioned from the war. He steals his horse Jack to save it from the slaughterhouse. The police go in pursuit, but thanks to the help of a young lady he is able to escape. (Film has documentary recordings from WW I, among others, naval battle by Skagerak) Catchwords: crisis time First World War Remembrance parades contents dated First World War Sound: silent Original colour: tinged Original size: 35 mm Duration: 64 minutes Source: film copy There are copies available There are no posters available There are no photo-scans available There are videos available No presentations Now, hope this helps you sort things out. Sylvia xxx

Heather We are all thinking of you & desperate for you to have this film. Local film buff doesn't think it has ever been put on video in UK, so hoping that the Dutch connection is fruitful. Please keep us all informed of your progress - I am sure everyone in GR is sitting with fingers crossed, rooting for you. Jay

Oh bless you Gwynne But I think its just a case of praying that they get back to me again to say there is a video I can buy (they could really screw me at the moment! I want it so desperately).

Have just sent a PM to a Genes member in The Netherlands asking for help for you. Gwyn

Do you interpret it as meaning: 'There are videos presently C120'. C120 is just the size of a video isnt it? It cant mean anything else surely. Oh please, please let there be a copy to buy.

Thanks so much Trace, that will be so handy. Amazing how wonderful the internet is when used for good, isnt it. Ive just had a go at it and though still not totally clear, Im getting a little bit excited: Sources: film copy There its copies present There are presently no posters There are presently no fotoscans There its videos presently: C120 No shows

Heather, try this site if you get any more :) http://www.worldlingo.*com/en/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html

Thats so kind of you. I didnt know you could do that on the internet!? A few mistranslations there! I like the horse called jacket! Do you think the bit at the end means there are copies for sale or not though, it isnt clear is it? Where it mentions the chase by police. My dads oldest bro was the policeman starting the chase. The soldier steals his old horse Jack which he sees being herded onto a boat to go to France for slaughter after WW1. So thats where dad and his bros were used for the chases. The star who saves him was the daughter of the police chief (dad told me all this last year, bless him) and she apparently hangs out of a window of the rooms that one of my uncles lived in in Bermondsey. Oh gawd, I do hope I get to see it. Many thanks for your help.

Hi Heather Don;t know if this helps, I put it into a translation tool on the web and came up with this: ID: 13337 Title: Couple of down and Outs, a year: 1923 country: Great Britain regisseur: W. Townend society: Napoleon films (Great Britain) category: Fiction ------------------ Titles: Original title: Couple or down and Outs, a Dutch title: Two overgeblevenen, the production countries: Great Britain production society: Napoleon films (Great Britain) control: Regisseur: For the Summers W. Townend dating, vertoning and distribution: production year: 1923 Dutch rent (initially): AFC film cast: Actor: Rex Davis Edna best one George Foley Philip Hewland crew: Producer: G.B. Samuelson contents description: Soldier returns disillusioned from the war. He steals its horse jacket to save it of the slachtbank. The police force puts on this the pursuit in but thanks to the aid of a young woman weet he to escape. (Film contains documentary prerecordings of WW I, among other things sea battle at Skagerak) trefwoorden: crisis time first world war commemorations parades substantive datings: First world war sound: Quietly original colour: Tinting original format: 35mm speelduur: 64 sources: film copy there its copies present there are no posters present there are presently no fotoscans present there its videos: C120 no shows Sam x

ID: 13337 Titel: Couple of Down and Outs, A Jaar: 1923 Land: Groot-Brittannië Regisseur: W. Townend Maatschappij: Napoleon Films (Groot-Brittannië) Categorie: Fictie ------------------ Titels: Originele Titel: Couple of Down and Outs, A Nederlandse titel: Twee overgeblevenen, De Productielanden: Groot-Brittannië Productiemaatschappij: Napoleon Films (Groot-Brittannië) Regie: Regisseur: Walter Summers W. Townend Datering, vertoning en distributie: Productiejaar: 1923 Nederlandse verhuur (oorspronkelijk): AFC Film Cast: Acteur: Rex Davis Edna Best George Foley Philip Hewland Crew: Producent: G.B. Samuelson Inhoudsbeschrijving: Soldaat keert gedesillusioneerd terug uit de oorlog. Hij steelt zijn paard Jack om het van de slachtbank te redden. De politie zet hierop de achtervolging in maar dankzij de hulp van een jonge vrouw weet hij te ontkomen. (Film bevat documentaire opnamen van WO I, onder andere zeeslag bij Skagerak) Trefwoorden: crisistijd eerste wereldoorlog herdenkingen parades Inhoudelijke dateringen: Eerste wereldoorlog Geluid: Stil Originele kleur: Tinting Origineel formaat: 35mm Speelduur: 64 Bronnen: Filmkopie Er zijn kopieën aanwezig Er zijn geen affiches aanwezig Er zijn geen fotoscans aanwezig Er zijn video's aanwezig: C120 Geen voorstellingen

Or read Dutch to be accurate!. Ive had an email back from the Dutch cinemuseum and though I can make out a lot of it cos Dutch is so similar to English, I am missing bits which may be of use to me re the silent film my dad was in in 1923. I want to see if there is anything which will give me further leads to buying a copy as the email I got said they were not sure any copies were available to buy. PS. How much is 120 euros, as if I care.