Genealogy Chat

Actually London became a county in its own right in 1889. The County of London incorporated much of Middlesex, as well as parts of Kent and Surrey, in addition to the old City of London (the ''square mile''). It did not become Greater London until 1963, when it was expanded to include the remainder of Middlesex as well as parts of Essex & Herts. Clerkenwell became part of the County of London in 1889. Before then it was in Middlesex. It was never in Surrey - as mentioned above, Surrey was south of the river, whilst Middlesex was north. Nor was it ever part of the City of London. Richard

And to show how everything is related, my husband's grandfather was born in Stepney, and later ran a pub in Pakenham Street, a stone's throw from the Family Records Centre in Islington. nell

Stepney definitely ISN'T Clerkenwell, they were two separate registration districts, but they were both Middlesex: Clerkenwell Created 1st July 1837. Abolished 1st August 1869 (incorporated into Holborn district). In Middlesex. Sub-districts : Amwell; Goswell Street; Pentonville; St. James. GRO volumes : III (1837-51); 1b (1852-69). Clerkenwell. Registers now in Islington district. Stepney Created 1st July 1837. In Middlesex until 1889. Sub-districts : Limehouse; Lower Mile End Old Town; Ratcliff; Shadwell; Shadwell and Ratcliffe; Upper Mile End Old Town. GRO volumes : II (1837-51); 1c (1852-1930). Holy Trinity Minories (from 1926), Limehouse, Mile End New Town (from 1926), Mile End Old Town (except 1857-1926), Norton Folgate (from 1926), Old Artillery Ground (from 1926), Old Tower Without (from 1926), Ratcliffe, St. Botolph Without Aldgate (from 1926), St. George in the East (from 1926), St. Katharine by the Tower (from 1926), Shadwell, Stepney, Spitalfields (from 1926), Tower of London (from 1926), Wapping, Whitechapel (from 1926). Registers now in Tower Hamlets district. nell

Ive got some from Stepney who come under Clerkenwell reg district. It is very confusing. Sorry, meant Shadwell

Clerkenwell was Middlesex before it was eaten up in Greater London. The City of London was and is the square mile. It is confusing though as different sites class Clerkenwell as London or Middlesex. Surrey and Kent are south of the Thames, north is generally Middlesex and Essex. nell

I actually find the old London (Middlesex, Surrey etc) confusing, I much prefer my rellies to be in the little villages in the sticks! Yes I think City of London was the 'square mile'. Angela

From BMD Clerkenwell Created 1st July 1837. Abolished 1st August 1869 (incorporated into Holborn district). In Middlesex. Sub-districts : Amwell; Goswell Street; Pentonville; St. James. GRO volumes : III (1837-51); 1b (1852-69). Clerkenwell. Registers now in Islington district Angela

oh dear conflicting. I am not sure what county to look up on a pay per view website. Is there a list of parishes for london somewhere on the web please?

Middlesex I believe. Angela

Middlesex, Surrey or city of london?