Genealogy Chat

I've got a girl on 1881 down as niece, then 10 years later in 1891 with the same couple she's become their granddaughter. She's actually the illegitimate daughter of another lady (my gg gm) so quite what she's doing with this family I don't know (although a contact of mine believes she may really be the head of households daughter! Ooo-err! Lisa

Hi Shiela armed with the info you kind people have found I just added the marriage of George Upton and Elizabeth Beare to my FTM2005 and did a websearch on George Upton - one came up which def looks like the son (Anns bro in 1891! living in Sussex) There are a lot more but I shall wait til son and hubby at work tomorrow to savour adding them on. Isnt it brill, I thought Id come to a dead end all round but if you sit and go through your FTM program you do find new possible lines of enquiry. Do you reckon that ought to employ all us lot as volunteer investigators?

Sue, Oh thats brilliant, I hadnt even got to looking for a possible. Ive just ordered the marriage cert of Ann in London but I would think this couple are a very good bet as I noticed the elder bro is called George. Woo hoo! Well done you. Many thanks.

Now I've started on my partner's tree, I had a totally confusing entry including the head of household, his wife, 'father-in-law', 'mother-in-law', 'brother' and 'son', where the 'father-in-law' and 'mother-in-law' turned out to be the head's deceased sister's in-laws, the 'brother' was the deceased sister's widower, and the 'son' was the 'brother''s son (I had worked that one out anyway because he was listed at the end and had the same surname as the in-laws and the brother). So now I will treat 'relationship to head' with a larger pinch of salt than before! Kate.

Whoops, sorry, it's my age or the heat or I need new specs, lol lol. Heather

ERM, 19, 19 1941? Hurrah, Im not the only one with seniors! Have tried the 1841 guys, not very enlightening unfortunately.

Perhaps the 1941 census will help, lol. Heather

Oh bloody hell, I knew it was too easy my way. Thanks guys. Of course, may be that both of them are illegitimate oh gawd. I shall get the marriage cert for Ann Upton and Thomas Taylor in Clapham. Not on BMD for ref.

And just to confuse you more, I have a nephew on one census who is really a cousin. I don't think they were very clear on relationships. Heather

Right lets try that again, now I have finished my middleaged moment that involves not being able to remember your message long enough to reply to it coherently!! (why can't GR let you have the question in front of you when you're answering it??) Under normal circumstances one would assume Thomas Beare had a sister who became Mrs Upton and was the mother of these Uptons. Only other thing I can think of is that Thomas Beare had half siblings called Upton (if his mum had married twice) Then the Upton niece and nephew might be the product of Thomas' half brother or unmarried half sister. Don't forget, it is possible that the two Upton's on the census are not brother and sister, though I bet they are!! Merry

In the 1851 I have a 19 year old girl Ann Upton(my GGMx2) living at a farm with a Thomas Beare (head) farmer and Mary Beare (sister). They are all shown as unmarried. So if she is shown as neice and a George Upton shown as unmarried nephew visitor then their mother must be a Beare?n Are there any other possibles? Just cant think - too hot today.

The old senior moment lengthening into a day at the mo.See below