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Does anyone know how much a 'selion' or 'sellion'

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An Olde Crone

An Olde Crone Report 13 Aug 2005 21:35

I googled it but it sweetly asked me if I meant to type in Sealion? I keep coming across it in mediaval documents. I only know rods poles and perches. Olde Crone

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 13 Aug 2005 21:47

Don't you just hate google sometimes? :~) Here's what I found: Sel'ion (?), n. [OF. seillon a measure of land, F. sillon a ridge, furrow, LL. selio a measure of land.] A short piece of land in arable ridges and furrows, of uncertain quantity; also, a ridge of land lying between two furrows. PS Google in North America wants to know if I meant 'Celine'. :~)

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 13 Aug 2005 21:49

I found the same think on Google as Lisa. Kath. x

Brian

Brian Report 13 Aug 2005 21:50

This what I got. I would understand it as being no set size Selion is a mediaeval open strip of land or small field used for growing crops, usually owned or rented to peasants. There could often be several selions to the acre. Monasteries or similar institutions were often bequeathed selions and then derived an income from them by letting. Regards Brian

An Olde Crone

An Olde Crone Report 13 Aug 2005 21:56

Thankyou everyone, that is most interesting. From that, I take it that the mention of 'seven sellions' could be seven separate strips of land, either in the same field, or miles apart! Olde Crone

fraserbooks

fraserbooks Report 13 Aug 2005 22:09

From my days studdying medieval history a lot of manors practised crop rotation, Oats, Wheat, Barley, fallow, clover then Wheat again when clover's over- the clover put nitrogen back in the soil - so serfs were usually given strips in different fields so that they would have a fair share of the different crops.

Merry

Merry Report 13 Aug 2005 23:48

At once I knew I would have to get up from my chair and proceed to the library department, a couple of feet behind me.............. Here I would see the copy of Collins Universal Dictionary, 1956, which was the only book that could tell me what a ''Cyprian woman'' might be (a prostitute) when I needed to know, in connection with the tree of my hubby (I don't have those on mine lol) 'Selion (sel'-yun) n. a ridge between two furrows, about the breadth of a single furrow [Fr. sillion, a furrow].'' Now I will have to consult my ggg-uncle, Robert Maynard, inventor of agricultural machinery, who will be able to give precise measurements of the breadth of a furrow....... He says it's about as wide as the ridge in between...... Happy Hunting! Merry

Christine in Herts

Christine in Herts Report 14 Aug 2005 13:42

If you put: define: selion into Google you get... Definitions of selion on the Web: * Selion is a mediaeval open strip of land or small field used for growing crops, usually owned or rented to peasants. There could often be several selions to the acre. Monasteries or similar institutions were often bequeathed selions and then derived an income from them by letting. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selion I just remembered that you can put define: word-you-don't-know into Google and it finds definitions for you on the Web. Christine

An Olde Crone

An Olde Crone Report 14 Aug 2005 19:03

Christine Thankyou very much for the Search tip - that'll be where I was going wrong! Merry This is the first time my trusty old dictionary has failed me (although it does list 'carucate' which was another land measure bothering me). All this has jogged my memory - a history lesson about how the land-strip farming system was ended and the Enclosures Act (to the detriment of the Peasantry). But I don't remember selions ever being mentioned! Thanks everyone. Olde Crone