Genealogy Chat

Other things to consider: If Thomas is rich, he may pay land tax, poor rates etc. He may leave a will. If Thomas is poor, he may appear in poor law or vestry records. At best, you'd get a settlement examination, with name of wife and all the children, together with their ages. I know that people could get married very young, but this is unlikely to happen until the couple are capable of existing as an independent economic unit.

Thanks for all these suggestions. It looks like another trip to Shrewsbury. Hopefully the christ. in Loppington may mention mothers surname!!?? Will also look for extra marriage. Off to watch Big Brother, much less complicated.

Oh, I can beat that, hands down! Three James Holdens, all same age, all in same small village.In the space of three years:(from the same Parish Regs) James Holden married Margaret Mason.(spinster) James Holden married MrsMargaret Holden, a widow, nee Mason. James Holden married Mrs Margaret Mason, a widow, nee Mason. Five years later, Mrs Margaret Holden, a widow, late Mason, marries - yep, you're getting the hang of it now - James Holden, a widower. This lot have at least 67 children between them, but I,m damned if I know which child belongs to which parent! Olde Crone

I've had a look at the IGI entries. How about this for a scenario ( though I know there are many parishes not on IGI so your family may be found in one of those) 1723 Thomas Parry or Perry marries Elinnor Winn in Wem. They have son Thomas and daughter Elinnor baptised there. Thomas Parry junior marries another Eleanor Wynn (perhaps a cousin?) in 1758 in Myddle. They have 2 sons baptised there then move to Loppington where they have further children baptised including Eleanor in December 1769 (this seems pretty near the date you were expecting for your Eleanor). Then they moved back to Myddle where further children were baptised during the 1770s. I have 2 marriages between Thomas Tweed and Hannah Fitch a generation apart on my tree. In this case both families were large and they appeared to always name their children after siblings (presumably god parents) so I suppose it wasn't suprising that the names repeated.

Jeanie Don't discount a lad marrying at 14. It was legal for girls at 12 and boys at 14, both with parental permission, right up until the 1900's. My husbands grandad (however many greats) got married at 15 to a 19 year old girl. Dianne

boys could marry at age 14 and girls 12 before 1929 with parents consent so he could have married

Just had an other look at the LDS site. There are 69 children born to a Thomas Parry and an Eleanor. Many of these are repeated. There is an Eleanor in 1769 in Loppington . Several children born there and not with the same names as those born in Myddle. So a possability.

Hi Judith,Its one of those that give a film number. Eleanor should have been born about1771. The different parish idea is a good one. Just wish the LDS had her down for the 1770's!!

The gap in baptisms could be explained if the family moved away from the parish and had children (perhaps including your Eleanor) baptised in their new parish church, then returned to the old parish about 1772. (this might explain the 'wrong' town on that LDS entry, though not a wrong date - was that an entry submitted by a member or one extracted from parish registers? Another possiblility is that they joined a non conformist church for a while.

Hi, I went to the archives at Shrewsbury yesterday and found info from both a printed book and the micro fiche. I have Samuel Wilkes marrying a Eleanor Parry 1992.In Myddle. I could not find the birth of Eleanor but there were loads of other children to a Thomas Parry and an Eleanor Wynn. So I thought there was a good chance these were her parents. Trouble is they marry in 1758 have 2 children, Thomas and Richard, then a Thomas and Eleanor start having children in 1772. So why the large gap. It cant be their son marrying an Eleanor because he is only 14 and I did not find any reference to this marriage.To confuse matters on the LDS it has an Ellinor Parry with parents Thomas Parry and Elenor Winn in 1724!! This is also in the wrong town. Any thoughts?