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death cert who would be at usual address??
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Val wish I'd never started | Report | 29 Jul 2005 23:42 |
I have a death cert it has an address for place of death, and the same address for occupation and usual address Under that box is the informants name and under that the usual address now I believe that to be the informants usual address is that right thanks because if so somebody else was living with her hhhummm |
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Unknown | Report | 30 Jul 2005 04:53 |
Hi Val, Not quite understanding your delema ??. But if reading correct,it looks like the deceased person and the informant both lived at the same address and it was also the address of place of work,,,,which could apply to many occuptations, What years are you refering to???. Kay. |
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Gwyn in Kent | Report | 30 Jul 2005 07:52 |
Yes that would be the informant's address. Is this in England? If so you'll notice that the informant is given in section 7a. In section 7b is their qualification to notify, (ie widow of deceased etc.) then 7c is their address. Above this in section 6 is the deceased's usual address and occupation, as opposed to where they may have died(section 1)which may have been a hospital, or wherever. If the address in 6 and 7c are the same, that suggests they were living together there, (although it could be sub divided into separate living spaces?) |
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Val wish I'd never started | Report | 30 Jul 2005 11:07 |
thanks for your replies my dilemma is that the informant should not have been living at that address only my uncle (the one who died) and his wife I wondered who he was. |
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Judith | Report | 30 Jul 2005 13:26 |
He could have been a lodger, or if the address was also a place of work perhaps an apprentice or assistant who was boarding with his employer, or of course as Gwyneth said the house might have contained more than one household so the informant was the upstairs neighbour. |
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Val wish I'd never started | Report | 30 Jul 2005 14:28 |
hi my uncle died in 2000 its the address my aunt and uncle were supposed to be living together in, but the address for him is the last address they were living at, and yet the informants address is the one they were supposed to have moved to in 1993 I wondered why that address was put when he moved from there years before he died |
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Gwyn in Kent | Report | 31 Jul 2005 01:47 |
Can you check the electoral lists to find out who was registered at each address? This does seem strange. Do you know for a fact that both aunt and uncle moved, or did you presume that because one had, then the other had too? |
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Val wish I'd never started | Report | 31 Jul 2005 12:45 |
hi Gwyneth I only visited her last week, I lost contact with her and found her again after 40 years. She married or said she married my uncle some years ago, yet I can find no records of a marriage, and she is very secretive about things. The point is my cousin told me the House she is living in now was left to my Uncle, she is saying it was left to her, point being if it was left to him I would be his heir if there was no will, I know that address for him was their old address she has been living at this new address for some time now . |
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Judith | Report | 31 Jul 2005 13:45 |
Putting what you have told us in order: You haven't seen your aunt for 40 years. You know your uncle and aunt (whether married or not) used to live at the address which was given as his usual address and place of death on the death certificate. Your aunt is now living at the address given by the informant at uncle's death in 2000 Your uncle and aunt were 'supposed to have moved' to the second address in 1993 This second address is a house which was left to either your uncle or aunt You feel the house should have come to you; as you are your uncle's heir if there was no will. (I presume this would only be the case if your uncle and aunt were not in fact married and there were no other relatives - how about the cousin you refer to?) There seem to be a lot of ifs here - they could have married under a different name or at a different time from that under which you looked, there may well have been a will, if she moved to the house after uncle's death she may well be right that it was left to her. Uncle may have put the house in her name. Whenever she moved there it is her home. As you have only just got in touch after 40 years and they seem to have been a couple for a long time I'm sure (or at least I hope!) you are not going to try to claim her home but perhaps she doesn't realise that, hence the secrecy. In any case people of an older generation are often reluctant to talk about details of their lives. If you really wanted to know I expect you could send for the will of the person who left the house to see who it was left to. You could also get land registry documents for the property online (it costs £4 for the documents and map) which will show when it changed hands. But why bother? If it were me I hope I'd be more interested in catching up with a long lost relative than finding out who owns her home. |
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Unknown | Report | 31 Jul 2005 13:52 |
If your uncle and his partner owned the house, she may have had her name on the title deeds (regardless of whether or not they were married) in which case I think it would be hers. You would only have a right to the house if a will was made in your favour or if any other blood relatives between you and your uncle (ie his parents, children & siblings) were dead. But you just have supposition here and no facts. Nell |
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Unknown | Report | 31 Jul 2005 15:11 |
It is also possible that your Aunt & Uncle owned BOTH houses at the time of his death. My Grandfather had two houses when he died ... one was the family home that we all knew about, the second was what he bought for him and his second wife in Sheffield where she worked. Now my Grandfather found it easier to actually live here in Derbyshire near to his family and his wife lived Monday - Friday at Sheffield. The address at which your Uncle died ... he could have just been visiting to do some tidying up/ decorating etc and not actually living there ... they could have been renting it out and he was visiting as the Landlord. There are a number of reasons why he died at an address that you believe he should not have been living at ... the law says the place of death is to be stipulated together with the address at which the person lived. Another theory ... maybe Aunt and Uncle were seperated and the person who registered the death was a lodger with the Aunt. Had your Aunt and Uncle NOT been married, then maybe the Will for your Uncle stipulated that your Aunt can live in the property until she dies. If they were married, then she has a legal right anyway. Obviously, having read the details again, your Uncle died where he worked... it just happens to be his old address. The person who registered the address may NOT have lived with your Aunt BUT could have been staying with her for a few days to help sort out the funeral etc and found it easier to give that address. Dancer :-) |
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Gwyn in Kent | Report | 31 Jul 2005 17:33 |
Am I misunderstanding death certificates? I thought section 6 refers to the usual address of the deceased, and their occupation. No mention of where they worked. |