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Thomas Guidrey and Margaret McCarthy married 1881 in Bristol. I have a possible death for Thomas in 1903 aged 42 but I have not found a birth for him yet, but I have him on the 1881 census with his wife and her mother living in Clifton, Bristol. On the IGI I have found the following Margaret Guidrey OR McCarthy Birth: , , Ireland Parents: Patrick and Margaret Lewis Marriages: Patrick Hartigan 08 FEB 1900 Manhattan, New York, Source Information: Batch No M005408 Questions are: did Thomas die earlier than 1903 or did Margaret leg it to New York and bigimously marry Patrick Hartigan. I know from census information that Margaret was born in Ireland about 1861. Is there any way of getting a copy of this marriage certificate from New York As Guidery is not a common name, Margarets maiden name is McCarthy, and both names appear on the same record in the IGI, is it too much information to be a coincidence?

Carol Here is the birth. Name: Guidrey, Thomas Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1883 District: Barton Regis County: Gloucestershire Volume: 6a Page: 51 And the death. Name: Guidrey, Thomas Record Type: Deaths Age at death: 42 Quarter: June Year: 1903 District: Bristol County: Avon Gloucestershire Volume: 6a Page: 38 I agree that there are too many links for it not to be the same Margaret. As to if she did mary in the States, well, that is a good one. There is the posibility that they could have divirced before this marriage. Victor.

In Bristol St James Thomas Guidrey 42 Dock Lab has a wife Caroline 33 and a babe Mary Jane 5m in 1901 census. Next door is another Thomas Guidrey 30 (Dock Lab) with wife Mary 28. All born in Brizzle.

Have you located Thomas and Margaret on the 1891 or 1901 census? What about looking for her arrival in the USA, is she on a passenger list? ie Ellis Island? I think it is highly unlikely that they were divorced. Maybe the dates for the US wedding are wrong? Or the death for Thomas is not the correct one? Did they have any children that you are aware of? Pat

Carol Presume this is the Thomas who's death you have. 1901 England Census Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island Carolina Guidrey abt 1868 Bristol, St James Wife Bristol Gloucestershire Mary Jane Guidrey abt 1900 Bristol, St James Daughter Bristol Gloucestershire Thomas Guidrey abt 1859 Bristol St Aug Head Bristol Gloucestershire There is only one other and this is him 1901 England Census Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island Mary Guidrey abt 1873 Bristol, St James Wife Bristol Gloucestershire Thomas Guidrey abt 1871 Bristol, St Aug Head Bristol Gloucestershire Notice no Margaret. Victor

Carole The info you have found on the IGI looks suspiciously like 'Submitted information' to me, as there is no date nor place of marriage. You should therefore take it with a big pinch of salt. I have found these submitted records to be somewhat less than accurate to put it politely. On the other hand, you may have discovered a family scandal.... Old Crone

Carole The only Thomas in 1891 census. Guidrey, Francis abt 1872 Bristol Brother St Augustine Watling Street Gloucestershire Guidrey, James T abt 1880 Bristol Nephew St Augustine Watling Street Gloucestershire Guidrey, Johannah abt 1833 Tippesary, Ireland Mother St Augustine Watling Street Gloucestershire Guidrey, Thomas abt 1883 Bristol Nephew St Augustine Watling Street Gloucestershire Victor

Carol Here is the Thomas and Margaret. Household Record 1881 British Census Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Margaret MC ARTHY Head W Female 44 Ireland Washerwoman >>>>Margaret GUIDREY Daur M Female 20 Bristol >>>>Thomas GUIDREY Son In Law M Male 21 Bristol General Labr Patrick SHEAHAN Lodger U Male 39 Ireland Seaman Bartholomew SHANNON Lodger U Male 24 Ireland General Labr Source Information: Dwelling Hotwell Rd 8 Pembrooke Court Census Place Clifton, Gloucester, England Family History Library Film 1341597 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2480 / 125 Page Number 24 This would have made Thomas 43 in 1903. But does this answer the question. He Is the only Thomas Guidrey in the whole census for the country, and does not show on any other earlier census under that name. Victor

Carol Playing about a little and came up with this.INTERESTING. 1861 England Census Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island Hannora Guidrea abt 1853 Ireland Daughter Bristol St Augustine Gloucestershire Johannah Guidrea abt 1833 Ireland Wife Bristol St Augustine Gloucestershire John Guidrea abt 1827 Ireland Head Bristol St Augustine Gloucestershire John Guidrea abt 1857 Ireland Son Bristol St Augustine Gloucestershire >>>>>>Thomas Guidrea abt 1859 Ireland Son Bristol St Augustine Gloucestershire Cannot find him or family in 1871 census. Victor