Genealogy Chat

Confused you will be Rita

I got a tad mixed up with my copy and past - it was ever this. I am looking for an Elizabeth/Eliza RICHARDS. In the 1881 census she gives her age as 39, born Lambeth. Her marital name is COLLINS Her father’s name on the marriage certificate in 1878 is given as James RICHARDS. Her status is given as SPINSTER. On the 1881 census she had 3 children – Jane Richards – age 16, ca 1865 – born Westminster, Surrey Walter Richards – age 12, ca 1869 – born Lambeth, Surrey Edward Richards – age 9, 1872 – born Blackfriars, Surrey On both Jane and Walter’s marriage certs. their father’s name is given as Walter John RICHARDS (the same as Elizabeth’s father surname – co-incidence?) (dec’d) My problem is that Elizabeth may indeed have been married to a Walter Richards – Equally she may not have been and Richards was her maiden name. What is certain is that on the 1871 she would have had at least Jane and Walter if not Edward. She may well have had other children about whom I know nothing In the 1861 – gawd knows who she is shown as living with. In both censuses she would have been living in either Lambeth, Blackfriars, Westminster, or possibly Rotherhithe, Bermondsey, St.Olaves, Southwark. Anybody up for a challenge? Rita

1881 for reference Name: Elizabeth Collins Age in 1881: 39 Age months: 0 Estimated birth year: abt 1842 Relationship to head-of-household: Wife Gender: Female Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England Address: 58 West Lane Civil parish: Rotherhithe County/Island: London Condition as to marriage: Married Source information: RG11/0581 Registration district: St Olave Southwark Sub-registration district: Rotherhithe ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Folio: 67 Page: 40 Timothy Collins abt 1833 Hadwell, Middlesex, England Head John Collins abt 1878 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Son Edward Richards abt 1872 Blackfriars, Surrey, England Step Son Jane Richards abt 1865 Westminster, Surrey, England Step Daughter Walter Richards abt 1869 Lambeth, Surrey, England Step Son Maureen

Well I can't find the b****s on the earlier census records...Ggrrrr! Is this the birth reg for Edward? Name: RICHARDS, Edward David Record Type: Births Quarter: December Year: 1871 District: London City County: London Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 39 London City includes St Anne's Blackfriars. Sarah

Could this be relatives?1871. Eliza Richards abt 1834 Camberwell, Surrey, England Wife Camberwell London Frances Richards abt 1870 Camberwell, Surrey, England Daughter Camberwell London Sarah Richards abt 1860 Camberwell, Surrey, England Daughter Camberwell London Thomas Richards abt 1823 Clapham, Surrey, England Head Camberwell London Thomas Richards abt 1855 Camberwell, Surrey, England Son Camberwell London Walter Richards abt 1868 Camberwell, Surrey, England Son Camberwell London

Do you have an occupation for James Richards? Did his daughter's marriage cert say is he was dec'd (I know it isn't to be relied upon!) Sarah

Sorry guys, Im getting too sleepy, confusing my collins with my richards now, so off to bed! Hope you find them!

Hi all - Many thanks for your assistance. I will follow up where feasible. Regards Rita