Genealogy Chat

I hadn't looked at the maths Jess, but your right. Even if the death of Thomas is in November 1859, and Eleanor Ann was born in October 1861 which is when she was registered it still adds up to too long! Either history has been made with a 13 month pregnancy or as you say another skeleton is about to jump out. My Grandfather was illigitimate and my mam never found out till I was about 5 or 6! and I'm only 42 now. His mothers sister also had a child out of wedlock and no one knew about him. not even my auntie who is a bit older than my mam. back to jobsons...... Then again if the census is done in jan or feb 1861 and she is 7 months old she could have been conceived in september or october 1859.

Curious to know who 1861 baby Eleanors father was.... Erm...erm..13+ months after his death... Look out - Skeleton about to jump out! Jess

Many Many thanks to you all. I have felt like I was going not so quietly insane. Its a bit compulsive this family tree business isn't it. Yes jess you have got the family I am taking about. Margaret Jobson Child would be my GG Grandmother and Ann Jobson and deceased Thomas Jobson my GGG Grandparents. Will be sending for certificates soon I think to put my self out of my misery. I have found the wedding date information of them too. I have been a member of GR for over a year now and have only just found this section where angels like you live. I hope to retain some of my sanity now when I get stuck. Ann

Looks like Jess has found your answer. My grandparents married in 1900 and the brides father and occupation are shown. Nothing mentions that he had been dead for nearly 25 years, but luckily we already had a certificate.

presumably the family Ann Jobson abt 1825 Coldstream, Scotland Head St Andrew Northumberland Eabner Ann Jobson abt 1860 Newcastle Upon Tyne Daughter St Andrew Northumberland Margaret Jobson abt 1850 Newcastle Upon Tyne Daughter St Andrew Northumberland Robert Jobson abt 1858 Newcastle Upon Tyne Son St Andrew Northumberland Thomas Jobson abt 1853 Newcastle Upon Tyne Son St Andrew Northumberland Eleanor Scott abt 1845 Newcastle Upon Tyne Lodger St Andrew Northumberland * Eabner being Eleanor aged 1 month. If she was Thomas' his death shouldn't be too hard to find, presuming she was his child. Have you found his death? -------------------------------------- is this it? Name: JOBSON, Thomas Record Type: Deaths Quarter: September Year: 1859 District: Gateshead County: Co. Durham Tyne and Wear Volume: 10a Page: 304

i'm confused - was her maiden or married name Jobson Having read it again maybe it was the daughters marriage you are talking about, in which case if no-one asked the specific question '...and is your father dead?' I dont suppose the info was offered. jess

Yep it is very possible it wouldnt mention deceased, I have some of those and definitely know the father was deceased. It may be the bride and groom couldnt read or just didnt understand the question. But what concerns me and perhaps I got this wrong - If HER father was Jobson, why is she still a Jobson when she is shown as a widow on the 1861 - why doesnt she have the husbands surname?

I have found some possible relatives on the 1861 census. However, the head of the family is Ann Jobson Widow age 36. The child Margaret matches age with my Known relative. The son Thomas sounds right as Margarets father was called Thomas. Margarets mother was called Ann too. Further children are a possible bonus I did not know about. My dilema is this. Margaret married in 1869 and on the marriage certificate is says her father was Thomas Jobson occupation waiter. But if the family on the 1861 census are the same ones Thomas is already dead when Margaret married, and It doesn't say Deceased on the marriage certificate. Is this possible? One of the witnesses is a Thomas Jobson but it could have been her brother. Thanks for any help given. Ann