Genealogy Chat

Hi,i have been looking for the birth of my great-grandfather John Drinkwater on and off for about 8 months-1 year with no joy! I have found him on the 1901 census and have his marriage cert from 1900,and he appears on my nans birth cert etc,but cant find his birth on 1837 or elsewhere.I decided in the last couple of days to have another go and see if i had missed him,but no luck again.Amongst all the scraps and notes i have collected i found this jotted down- John Drinkwater,1879,Yeading(civil parish)Hayes(county)Middx,RG11/1335,(reg district) Uxbridge(sub district)Hayes,7/folio(35)page 22 ??? Im baffled,1,i cant remember ever writing this down and 2,i dont know what it means or what i can do with it,i have only ever ordered a cert from 1837online! Can anyone shed any light on this as to whether it might lead me to finding my great-grandfathers birth cert,thanks,William.

Hi William Sorry I can't help with finding his birth but just to let you know, that information you have there is the details you need to locate a particular entry on a census. I don't know which one though. Sam

Looks like a census reference to me.

its this Fanny Drinkwater abt 1872 Hayes, Middlesex, England Daughter Yeading, Hayes, Middlesex, England George Drinkwater abt 1833 Hayes, Middlesex, England Head Yeading, Hayes, Middlesex, England Henry Drinkwater abt 1869 Hayes, Middlesex, England Son Yeading, Hayes, Middlesex, England James Drinkwater abt 1867 Hayes, Middlesex, England Son Yeading, Hayes, Middlesex, England Jane Drinkwater abt 1834 Hayes, Middlesex, England Wife Yeading, Hayes, Middlesex, England Jane Drinkwater abt 1865 Hayes, Middlesex, England Daughter Yeading, Hayes, Middlesex, England John Drinkwater abt 1879 Yeading, Middlesex, England Son Yeading, Hayes, Middlesex, England Thomas Drinkwater abt 1863 Harlington, Middlesex, England Son Yeading, Hayes, Middlesex, England Name: John Drinkwater Age in 1881: 2 Age months: 0 Estimated birth year: abt 1879 Relationship to head-of-household: Son Household: View other family members Family and neighbors: View neighbors Gender: Male Where born: Yeading, Middlesex, England Address: Yeading Civil parish: Hayes County/Island: Middlesex Condition as to marriage: Unknown Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Source information: RG11/1335 Registration district: Uxbridge Sub-registration district: Hayes ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Folio: 35 Page: 22

Thanks everyone,on his wedding cert(march 4th 1900) it gives his age as 19,and his father as George Drinkwater,and on the 1901 census it gives his age as 20(last birthday).Any ideas as to why his birth doesnt appear on 1837,or more importantly,what can i do with the information to try and get a birth cerificate for my great-grandfather?

Jennifer- why cant it be? In fact i would have said it probably was Him! jess

Thanks ,but im almost sure that is my John from the large list from hayes( There was an older brother William Walter but he must have left home by then as he was born in 1850)as a lot of the names sound familiar from a contact from a distant relative.Is there any way i can use the info to get a birth certificate even if he doesnt show on 1837online?? Thanks everyone for your help,its been great.

here is the family in 1861 Emma Drinkwater 1860 Hayes, Middlesex, England Daughter Hayes Berkshire George Drinkwater 1833 Hayes, Middlesex, England Head Hayes Berkshire George Drinkwater 1855 Hayes, Middlesex, England Son Hayes Berkshire Jane Drinkwater 1835 Hayes, Middlesex, England Wife Hayes Berkshire Joseph Drinkwater 1857 Hayes, Middlesex, England Son Hayes Berkshire Mary Drinkwater 1859 Hayes, Middlesex, England Daughter Hayes Berkshire 1871 George Drinkwater 1833 Hayes, Middlesex, England Head Hayes Middlesex George Drinkwater 1854 Hayes, Middlesex, England Son Hayes Middlesex Henry Drinkwater 1870 Hayes, Middlesex, England Son Hayes Middlesex Henry Drinkwater 1871 Hayes, Middlesex, England Son Hayes Middlesex James Drinkwater 1868 Hayes, Middlesex, England Son Hayes Middlesex Jane Drinkwater 1835 Hayes, Middlesex, England Wife Hayes Middlesex Jane Drinkwater 1866 Hayes, Middlesex, England Daughter Hayes Middlesex Joseph Drinkwater 1856 Hayes, Middlesex, England Son Hayes Middlesex Mary Drinkwater 1858 Hayes, Middlesex, England Daughter Hayes Middlesex Thomas Drinkwater 1864 Harlington, Middlesex, England Son Hayes Middlesex William Drinkwater 1862 Hounslow, Middlesex, England Son Hayes Middlesex

here they are in 1901 Ethel Drinkwater 3 Harrow, Middlesex, England Daughter Willesden Middlesex Frederick Drinkwater 9 Nk, London, England Son Willesden Middlesex George Drinkwater 71 Hayes, Middlesex, England Father Willesden Middlesex Henry Drinkwater 29 Hayes, Middlesex, England Brother Willesden Middlesex Jane Drinkwater 70 Hayes, Middlesex, England Mother Willesden Middlesex Jane Drinkwater 36 Australia Wife Willesden Middlesex Jessie Drinkwater 6 Willesden, Middlesex, England Daughter Willesden Middlesex Thomas Drinkwater 36 Harlington, Bedfordshire, England Head Willesden Middlesex Thomas Drinkwater 1 Willesden, Middlesex, England Son Willesden Middlesex

Excellent stuff,thank you so much,i knew that most of the family had moved to the Willesden area as one of Georges sons,William Walter (w.w) Drinkwater had started his waste/sand/ballast/haulage business in about 1885 and most of the family were employed in the business for many,many years,all living in the same roads,or very nearby.I guess im not any closer to finding a birth certificate though am i??Or can those census details be used any other way to pin down Johns birth?