Genealogy Chat

Thanks a bunch helen, i never knew if she ever got married and had more kids, so this will give me a whole new outlook, i just imagined her pining, or going into a nunnery or something. Obviously she had to move on, this could be the reason i couldn't find her death details, i was looking at the wrong name. oh well, back to the drawing board, thanks again MOE!

Hi Colette, no i don't have the b/c yet still waiting,i'm surprised shaws alley/ carpenter row is in that area i thought it was around canning/ faulkner streets lpool8 according to rellies that have since died. My mother was brought up in caryl gardens L8 by her adoptive parents (nolan) but its her birth mums details that are sketchy, I have a 1906 map of liverpool city center but it only shows up to princes ave L8 i will look and see if these streets are in the city center thanks for looking for me MOE! PS what is this dictionary you have? and where can i get one? moe

Hi Maureen did you say you had your mums birth cert if so what was the address. I could check my 1911 Liverpool directory for you. Carpenters Row and Shaws Alley were right by one another in the Wapping Dock area of the city just on the outskirts of the city center. So her birth would be registerd under Liverpool or maybe Toxteth Park. Colettexx

Me again! Well I've finally managed to get onto the Lancs BMD site :) Births for the West Derby & Toxteth Park area haven't yet been put onto the site :( but hopefully one of the ones on freebmd is yours anyway. Marriages - there are two on there for a Lilian Harvey. 1922 - Married John Thompson at St Marys, Kirkdale - this is doubtful as like you say, she would have been around 16yrs so I think this one could be ruled out. 1926 - Lilian Harvey married a Frederick Mantle at Liverpool Register office. Hope that helps Helen x

I wondered if you've looked at the following site: www(.)lancashirebmd(.)org(.)uk - remove brackets! I use the Staffsbmd site for a lot of my searching and it's fab! I've been trying the lancs one but keep getting errors. The site must be down but do keep trying (if you haven't already looked) Helen x

Oh my god! thanks a million, i will go and have a look at that site and cross check with 1837online to see how i missed it my grandmother was proving an enigma alive and dead. thanks again MOE!

Hi Moe, Actually there are 3! Lilian Annie Harvey, West Derby 8b 284, 1905 (Q2) Lilian Harvey, Toxteth Park 8b 157, 1906 (Q2) Lilian Harvey, West Derby 8b 361, 1906 (Q3) The first one though, would have been 17 when she had your Mum so the other two are better possibles. Knowing which is the right one though (that's assuming one will be!) I haven't a clue! http://freebmd*rootweb*com (replace the stars with dots!) Helen x

Helen, the area is either liverpool S (for south) or toxteth park but sometimes west derby which was the registery office, i can't seem to get the website freebmd what is the full address? thanks Moe!

Hi Moe, I found two POSSIBLE births on freebmd for Lillian Harvey. They're both spelt as Lilian, with just one L. Both the registration districts seem to be around Liverpool. The reason I've said POSSIBLE births is that I'm not too hot on geography and don't know what registration district Liverpool comes under. I'm sure someone on here will do though. If you can find Lillian's birth, then you can find out her parents names from her birth cert and then find them on the 1901 census. As for going forward, I think I'd try and find a marriage for Lillian on 1837 online or the family relatives site. Good luck Helen

Donna, I do think i've missed her somewhere but when i go back and see all those pages red showing that i've already veiwed them i just deflate, what i will do is try again tonight and if not ask on threads tomorrow, i just thought there would be an electoral roll website or something? MOE!

hi maureen you could try the 1837 birth records it should be on there have you had a look would you like me to try for you best wishes donna

Could anyone give me some help on where to look for my gran who gave my mother up for adoption? i have spent days on 1837 online. my mother was born in 1922 i found that. she was adopted in 26 got that. but her birth mother is hiding somewhere, she was roughly 16yrs when she gave birth, and i have gone back to 1890 looking for her page after page, her name was Lillian Harvey from either shaws alley/carpenters row liverpool how do i find someone born after the 1901 census? PLEASE ADVISE.... MOE!