Genealogy Chat

Thanks for the comment, but the three is definitely a 3. My theory is that she was seventeen when she got married and he was 29, so she lied to make the gap look smaller.

Hi Peter I haven't looked at the images but I would think it very easy to confuse a three with an eight. Therefore I think 1871 should read 28 & 1881 would be 38. Vivienne

Thanks for al replies. The neice in 1891 solves the lot, she is with an 'Aves' cousin which confirks everything (and solves another mystery too. Thanks again - now to 1901 Peter

There's... Gaywood, Alice 24 New Cross, London Lodger Hendon Middlesex Gaywood, Marie C 15 New Cross, London [Lodger's] Sister Hendon Middlesex (with a Jones family) (Sorry, didn't read that bit - you already know about these) and... Garwood(Gaywood), Charles F 17 Sussex(New Cross) Head Camberwell London Gaywood, Caroline E 20 London(New Cross) Sister Camberwell London and... Gaywood, Elizebeth Ann 13 New Cross, Surrey Niece Camberwell London (transcribers having a field day with this family lol) I assume Alice has died by this time, but I can't find a death anywhere.

Hi Peter Nicely laid out and really easy to digest, can you just clarify who is missing from 1891/1901 and do you know if they were still alive then? Or could we be looking for possible deaths too. I'll have a look for you I can see your 71/81 Alice's are the same person, as for 1861 it is frustrating when you cannot and probably will not ever be certain. Have you asked for a '51 look up? Regards Sam

1871 looks like a K to me too, so I think you're right about those. Having a look through 1891 for you :)

Consider these facts: 1. 1861 Census Alice KRAFFT aged 18 living in Old Kent Road with father Charles Frederick Krafft 2. June 7 1865 Alice Katherine Krafft of Old Kent Road marries Thomas Gaywood (lighterman of High St Borough). Both of full age. Witnessesses Charles Frederick Krafft and Caroline Laflin. Marriage at St George the Martyr, Southwark. 3. 1871 Census Alice K Gaywood b Wandsworth(transcribed in Ancestry as Alice E but looks like K to me) Aged 23 Living Mason Street St Pauls, Greenwich with husband Thomas aged 35 – occupation writer HM Customs and Excise.Has children Alice E(4), Carline e(sic) 11 months, Thomas G(2) 4. 1881 Census Alice K Gaywood 33 Living 59 Besson Street South Side Deptford with Children Alice 14, Thomas 12, Caroline 10, Charles 7 Mary 5 and Elizabeth 3 5. 1891 Census Alice 24 and sister Marie C(15) boarder in Hendon. 6. 1891 Census Thomas Gaywood(22) living Alexandra Cottages Beckenham (where are Alexandra cottages in Beckenham??) Wife Florence, Children Florence 3, Thos JH(2) Question 1. – the ages don’t match for Alice between the 1861 census and the 1871/81 Are they the same person? 1848 fits neatly with the births of other children of Chas Fredk. There is another sibling (William Krafft b c 1849)who, like Alice, appears not to have been registered. I have thoroughly checked 1837online. Nothing in FreeBMD Question 2. Where are the others in 1891? Thanks in advance Peter

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