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No Wonder people are emigrating-surely the crime in other countries is bad or is just here?

A murderer who stabbed a man 80 times and then posed for a picture next to the dead body has been jailed for life at the High Court in Glasgow.
Stephen Price, 20, was told he must spend at least 15 years in prison.

catherine
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I've never understood why "life" is 15 years.

What an insult to the dead man. Mind you, Price will pay for what he's done, one way or another.

Absolutely disgusting........................how on earth will his victims family cope with this pathetic sentence!

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15 years for such a vicious crime - disgusting - and in the meantime we have to keep this piece of low life warm and well fed - start putting them on prison ships or as was suggested a while back - disused oil rigs in the North Sea - pity we don't have anywhere nasty to deport them to - hell would be a suitable place

Crime in other places is just as bad - but perhaps a little different. Police have just killed the 6th unarmed person in the last month in the nearest big city to me and as in all the other 5, the policeman concerned has not been brought to book.

where are you Felicity?

USA, Ann.

Perhaps our police could all have guns and "accidently" shoot people, but boy if i was in USA and a police officer then if i thought someone had a gun then i may shoot(no questions asked).

Why should the police have any more right to shoot innocent people than anyone else, Frosty? Don't they have an obligation to be MORE careful, meticulously trained to be able to make split-second decisions? The police are supposed to protect, not kill the general population. Shooting somebody 'accidentally on purpose' is murder, even if you wear a uniform, unless they changed the law recently. That fact just gets ignored though.

Dismiss any illusions of the city or state police as cousins to the friendly British bobby.

Oops! I didn't mean to 'kill' this thread. I'm sure lots of other people have interesting things to add. :-)

Felicity, everywhere has good and bad elements. It is up to us to concentrate on the good.

It's funny really, lots of people leave these boards when things go awry instead of sticking around and trying to outweigh the bad, and similarly, here are lots of people wanting to leave the UK. cos they aren't happy with the way things are going.
As someone said on the immigration thread, the grass isn't always greener on the other side, you have to be prepared to wait to be accepted and to do things for yourselves, so you are integrated into the community and things aren't always wonderful.

Surely as on these boards, it would be better if the people who keep complaining about things here, did more to improve society. Join local groups that make a difference, volunteer to help clean up your area, or help out with youngsters who hang about the streets bored, lobby your mps and write to the local papers about issues that need action and get people together in your street, i.e. with a neighbourhood watch group or similar. Many people together will be seen and heard and councils and governments should listen, more likely than one small voice in the wilderness, and others moaning and complaining. My o.h. is always complaining about things but he has never ever got involved with anything to improve life here.
When I lived at my house, I started a neighbourhood watch group and joined a forum that interacted with the local council, so that we could say what was needed in the area, instead of the council doing things that weren't right and wasting money. We were allowed to influence a small budget and got lots of improvements done. We did consultation days about the old hospital being pulled down when the new one was built out of the city, by doing that the feedback from local people went to the Council and the developers and we stopped things that wouldn't have been beneficial to the area and got the housing that was needed and a land swap with the local school, giving them a larger safer play area, and getting rid of a small green area that they had to walk to, across roads, to play on. We had input into a new doctor's surgery which joined three hard to get to practices, into one building with a pharmacy included and other facilities all on the one site.
This is what people need to do, not moan and groan and desert what they think of as a sinking ship.
Lizx
That's not to say I wouldn't welcome living in a warmer place, but with climatic changes who knows how good things will get here in the future.
Even Malta let me down last year with rain most of my visit, when before at the same time of year, I had always had lovely weather.

I've visited lots of lovely places but I really can't think of a country I'd rather live in than the UK.

In the past few weeks I've needed to drive across the country to London and also northwards through some of Wales to Herefordshire. Looking at the countryside I went through made me appreciate how lovely much of the country is. It's also made up of enormous wide open green spaces.

I know that most people live in towns and cities but there is a lot of lovely space out there and the vast majority of people everywhere are good and friendly.

Sue

I do agree Sue, I love many places in the UK and still have lots to discover.
If I won the lottery I would love to have a little house in many different places so I could stay over in whatever area took my fancy for that month or so.
Lizx