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General question re adoption registrations

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Margaret

Margaret Report 15 Jun 2009 11:59

Does anyone know please, when a child is adopted does his/her original birth registration stand, or does the new adoptive parents have to re-register the birth with the new name? I ask this as a friend was adopted when she was about two years old and I wondered whether her birth would be under her birth-mothers surname or her adopted mothers surname later

dutch

dutch Report 15 Jun 2009 12:08

have pm you
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dutch

dutch Report 15 Jun 2009 12:24

my granson was 2yrs old but still has his fathers name on birth cert,unless they changed it by deed poll,but i have.nt seen my grandson since he was two,thats why sent for copy of his birth cert does this help,hes now going on for 29
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Lisa Ht

Lisa Ht Report 15 Jun 2009 12:40

when my friend applied for her adoption file and found out her birth name she then applied for her birth cert which said adopted in the last column

Sally

Sally Report 15 Jun 2009 12:42

The original birth registration must remain as I have found my children who are in their 30's now, under their original names on BMD......

Once we adopted them, their names go onto the Adoptive Children's Register and we are given birth certificates with our name on them.....

sally

Margaret

Margaret Report 15 Jun 2009 12:58

Thank you very much everyone.

Moonchild - thank you for that. In effect then, the child has two birth certs with I assume, the adoptive one taking preference through their lives, ie if they have to provide birth cert for a job for example or something similer.

Thank you all for your replies.

Penny

Penny Report 15 Jun 2009 13:48

Almost

They have a birth cert, in their birth name, thats it the only birth cert they ever have

What they get after adoption , is an entry in the adopted childrens register in their adoptive name and an adoption cert which looks identical to a short birth cert.

You dont get another entry on the birth registers

IN BMD registers you friends name wouldbe listed in her birth name, under her natural mother ( and fathers maybe) name

dutch

dutch Report 15 Jun 2009 14:00

Hi Island
its ok my grandson still has his dads name the same as when they both register,but at the very bottom it says name given after registration and surname theres line going thru and then underneath,it has Adopted and signed by the registra
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Sally

Sally Report 15 Jun 2009 18:10

Yes Margaret, Minnie is right, the children when they are adopted get the short form of birth certificate, which is identical to a birth certificate of a child born to you..........when our son was born to us, a few years after we adopted, we got him the short form of the birth certificate so all the birth certificates were identical.........in other words there is nothing on the adopted children's birth certificates to say they are adopted.......

sally

Penny

Penny Report 15 Jun 2009 21:55

Julia

In a CRB check you are NOT obliged to provide pre adoption names & Certs. Post adoption info is strictly confidential to the adoptee should they wish that to be the case.

Legally you are the person named on your adoption cert

Sheila

Sheila Report 15 Jun 2009 22:36

Hi

I have never produced both certs, for anything, legally the minute you are adopted then you have that name, the person under your birth name has in effect ceased to exist.

You should not be asked to produce further info, my short cert does not even say I was adopted, it looks like any other apart from the fact my details where taken from records held by the Registrar General in London.

There are a lot of people around who do not even know they are adopted throughout their lives as they use only this short form of it.

Born in Kent

Do you mean a copy of the cert in their adoptive name or birth name ?

Sheila

Sheila Report 16 Jun 2009 13:07

Hi

If you know their birth name and you have found their registration is it over 50 years ago ? then you should be able to order the cert no problem.

Accessing adoption records is another matter, there are still fights from birth relatives going on with the agencies of deceased adoptee's to have the right to view their records.

Margaret

Margaret Report 17 Jun 2009 14:12

Thank you everyone for that information. It was a question that came up in conversation and no-one was sure of the answer. Thanks you all.