General Chat

Hello Linda .....bless him indeed .

The address etc are useful as well I think on the wills .

Tec , your so right to say that money isn't the answer to some problems .

I already have most of the death certificates, but it is interesting to see how much they left.
This man is a sad case because he had been married before but his wife was ill and they never had any children. She owned the house they lived in and when she was dying because he said he would never marry again, she left the house in trust to her niece and nephew, they were to get it after his death. Of course he did marry again, to a young widow, they went on to have four more children one of whom was my mother. What money he had was used up in the depression. he died when my mother was about fifteen and they were promptly told to leave the house

Linda ...that really is a sad tale . So your poor Grandmother had to leave the house and look after four children , with only that tiny amount of money behind her ? : (( She did well to manage ( I hope ? ) .

Hello everyone - hope you are all well.

Nice to see you back Amanda - I thought you'd run off in horror and confusement:-))

I too have been playing with Ancestry and straight away found the will of OH's 2 x great uncle. He left just over 15 pounds to his son. Out of this I got a date of death, the son's home address and occupation. I will have a good look today.

Still blustery here although the sun is out - for now. It's my daughter's birthday today. I can't believe she's 36 - I'm surely not old enough to have an offspring of that age.

Sue xx

The children were all working by then, so they moved into a rented house and they did manage. My poor grandmother had such a sad life. She married her childhood sweetheart and was pregnant with their first child when he died. She moved back to live with her parents, they encouraged her to marry this much older widower because he would take care of her. she did and went on to have four more children, but i don't think she was ever really happy again

Good morning Sue. be careful on Ancestry, the person named has the probate or administration of the will, but is not necessarily a recipient of the money

Yes that is a sad story Linda. I have a copy of OHs G Grandfathers
Will, in it he states that his wife can remain in the the house for as long as she remained a widow. Should she remarry then the house was to be sold and proceeds to be divided between his children. She never did remarry.

Tec.

Hello Sue .......I never run from confussion , it's my natural state most of the time ....lol

A very Happy Birthday to your daughter , I hope she has a splendid day : ))

I am shocked though as I wouldn't have believed you could have a child that was that age , you must be wearing very well : )) x

Of course you are not old enough to have a child of that age Sue. Did you adopt her when she was older????????

I was a child bride Amanda:-))

Thanks for the tip Linda - I didn't realise that.

Sue xx

Good Morning Sue,

Happy Birthday to your daughter - Penblwydd Hapus to her,

I'm sure you must pass as sisters...........

Tec.

Tec, are you after Brownie points lol.

I have just found my great grandfathers will now, this is really good

People mistake us for sisters all the time:-))

I'm just having another look at the wills on Ancestry and not having great success. I have only found 2 so far but then I haven't got into the family who I'm assuming would all have wills.

Sue xx

I have just found my great grandmother Sue. i never expected this branch to have wills, they were just ordinary people

Me - crawling?..........Nah,

Tec.

I've found it is the unlikely ones that have wills but when it comes to probate , isn't that because there wasn't a will ? ......hope you have some success soon Sue .

Glad your finding lots Linda : ))

Some say probate and some say administration.
probate definitely involves a will, I had probate for my mother. i think administration may be under a certain amount and probate when there was more money

I have just noticed it says

Missing volumes:

Our collection covers 80 years from 1861 to 1941. We currently do not have the books for the years 1858-1860 and there are some gaps for the years 1863, 1868, 1873, 1876, 1877, 1883, 1888, 1899-1903 and 1910-1911. However, we hope to add records for these years as soon as possible.

That may explain why I couldn't find one where I am certain there is a will

Well spotted Linda ..... I'm a devil for not bothering to read the notes on things ...far to eager to just dive in and start typing names ...lol

It will be interesting to see what further records get added , I hope it's quite soon as my subscription runs out in February .

I found this,so I was wrong about the money

Letter of Administration

Letter of administration: Upon the death of a person intestate, but leaving a will without appointing executors, or when the executors appointed by the will cannot or will not act, the Probate Division of the High Court of Justice or the local District Probate Registry will appoint an administrator who performs similar duties to an executor. The court does this by granting letters of administration to the person so entitled.

or this in plainer English

Regardless of whether there is a will or not, someone has to deal with the estate and a legal document may need to be issued to authorise one or more people to do this.

A person authorised in the will to manage the estate is called the executor. They will be issued a document by the Probate Registry known as a Grant of Representation (Probate).

There are two other types of grant. If there is a will but no executors are named or people named do not wish to apply or be involved, the Probate Registry issues Letters Of Administration (with will). If there is no will or the will is not valid then a Letters of Administration is issued.