General Chat

Pam - you brought to mind the old saying "put on your Sunday best". That meant that you dressed well to attend church and yet I have seen so many people attending church in clothes others would wear to dig the garden in.
I often watch the TV program Judge Judy, and she has often ticked people off for not dressing properly to come to her court. Recently a witness attended in a T-shirt and threadbare jeans - we could see his bare knees through the holes in both legs.
This shows that people don't know how to dress or when to dress up. They still seem to know how to dress to attend a wedding, but with so many weddings taking place outdoors these days, I can see that dropping off too.

The latest I have noticed is that men are wearing hats indoors - even sitting down to dinner still wearing the hat. You won't see a serviceman wearing a hat - they remove their caps immediately they enter the door and put in under their arm until they are outside again.

You are so right Berona. I've noticed this hat thing as well. I think it comes down to the fact that young people are no longer being taught good old fashioned respect. They have no respect for anyone even themselves and see that the old conventions were used as a means to show respect to others and to themselves. They have little in their lives to live up to any more. Is it any wonder that there's so much depression in young people. They have nothing to aspire to. It's like you have to be at the bottom of the pole with the rest of the sheep.

Pam.

Hello Pamela

Don't think we have met?
I am Persey and I used to spend a lot of time on here but not lately.

I am at the bottom of the world with quite a lot of sheep.

I will now go and look at to what you and Berona were discussing.

Perse

Berona and Pamela and the rest of you,

When I was at high school we wore black stockings all year round and as soon as we were out of the school gates we had to wear navy gloves at all times and if we wore our school blazer we were not to wander around with it undone. We could wear our cardigan under the blazer in the cold weather but we were not to be seen on the street in said cardigan. In the summer we had panama hats and in the winter felt ones.

Now school uniform on some looks like it was picked up off the floor all creased and bedraggled etc and all sorts of footwear are worn.

My youngest went to the Jewish school for her primary and intermediate years and the boys wore caps and the girls wore these little pork pie hats (which amused me). The boys when they saw me would doff their caps and say good morning or afternoon Mrs xxxxxxx. The children all stood up when an adult entered the class room. The school was exemplary on manners, learning and caring about others.

Persey

Very lovely to meet you Persey. I've heard your name on here several times and I'm sure that many of the northern hemisphere-ites will be glad to see that you have returned.

I live in Far North Queensland, Australia not far from Cairns so I'm from the southern climes, too. And I love NZ.

School uniforms up here are quite relaxed in that the girls now also wear long legged shorts, like to the knee, and shirts that are designed to wear outside the shorts but this is a concession to the heat. Even so, they look neat, clean and tidy; they wear hats and proper shoes. Not so the teachers. They'll be wearing scruffy looking jeans, shirt hanging out and sandals.

Private schools are a little less relaxed but even their teachers look scruffy.

I just don't understand why we have to let standards drop as much.

Also, you mention good manners. These seem to be a thing of the past as well. Sometimes you'd be lucky to get as much as a grunt from the young people. And this includes one of my grandsons whom I'm constantly pulling up for it, to no avail.

Pam.

Hi Perse, welcome back. Your description (and some of the others) of school uniforms made me smile.
I went to a public boys only school but we had a master who was very much into the school spirit stuff. He said that there was the 2% who gave the school a bad reputation. Apparently, they didn't wear their school tie. After that I decided to become one of the 2%.
In my brief teaching career 1969-70 I wore a suit and tie, but usually without the coat.
I would not have dreamed of wearing jeans.
Back to work!
Colin

haha, well said Colin. But let's face it. There's a big leap from refusing to wear a tie to wearing what teachers wear these days. Not sure what it's like in the main cities but up here in the far north it's anything goes.

Don't work too hard.

Pam.

Persey, what part of NZ are you in?

Pam

Glad to see you posting again, Perse. Linda is away and Sue has been training people this week, so our numbers have been down.
When my younger ones were in primary school, they were expected to wear full uniform at all times - so I wondered why dtr's teacher didn't even bring a pair of shoes to school. She wore dresses which seemed to made of cheesecloth and never wore shoes - and each morning, she walked the class in to their room, sat them down and told them to be quiet - while she went next door to give another teacher a single rose. How sweet. (?) Not very educating, but sweet!!!

I am from Auckland - born not far from where I live now. The area I live in is called Sandringham - very multicultural and probably the only suburb that has three halal butchers. Most butchers shops have disappeared with the majority purchasing their meat all packaged in the supermarket.

Before I was doing my school days so now we are up for a when I was little - we had several butcher's shops where I grew up in Herne Bay ( a posh suburb now) and I loved the big wooden chopping block and all the sawdust on the floor for me to skate around in. We did not have a fridge until I was about eight - so there were frequent trips to the local shops our house was number 11 which was the big corner shop building plus five houses down the street from all the local merchandisers. We even had a drapers/haperdashery shop which sold all sorts of things and they are also a thing of the past. I could go on and on but Allan would get bored - he would rather -play on the beach at Summer Bay.


~~~~~~~~~~ waves to Diane - how are you sleeping now?

~~~~~~~~ and Janet how's the studying getting on.

Now Colin I was a good girl and always wore my school tie.... then my eldest wore it as she went to the same school in the sixth form and then they were allowed to wear mufti in the seventh. My youngest then wore it for four years- the other kids were dead envious because the ties of their era were not the quality of mine. The newer ones had a thick knot when tied properly and my one was much slimmer and so much more refined.

Cheers all Persephone

Good evening Persey

It is nice to see you posting again :0))

I won first prize in a competition recently; a week at Summer Bay

The booby prize was six months at Summer Bay!

when I was at high school we also had to wear a school uniform. My first local government job was working in the Town Clerk's section at the Manchester Town Hall. My Uncle also worked there in the Health Dept. One summer I had to take some papers to his office, I had no jacket on as it was really warm weather and had my shirt sleeves rolled up. My Uncle leapt out of his chair and said that he could not believe that the Town Clerk would allow staff to roam around the Town Hall with their sleevs rolled up.

I had to roll them down and fasten them before he let me leave his office!

Allan

Good morning CC.

We were fairly strict with our children, and although they would charge about at home they always were, and still are, well behaved when out.

Allan

CC,I go by the maxim "Don't do as I do, do as your told"

And don't let me loose near a group of wheelie bins: that's orgy material :0))

Allan

CC, I honestly can't remember the genesis of the wheelie bin saga.

it is buried in one of the posts in the previous 1256 pages (I didn't start posting until page 5)

One of the other Regulars may recall.

Allan

What else do you meet when you go for a walk at 3am? That's even later than Diane and Susanwithnumbers have been posting on here!!
Allan says he has good conversations with the wheelie bins - so we believe him - well, we say we do. It keeps him happy.

Good evening Berona

I suppose that I could post before going out for my walk :0))

Allan

Well all,

I am going out this evening so I have to go and get ready.

It could be a late night!

Allan

I want what Joan's having cottage pie and chocolate pudding not dreams about getting a cleaner/ironer in - well not unless he is a nice young man. - No stifle that thought pie and pud will do me.

Allan - a late night? What are the wheelie bins putting on some sort of cabaret?

Hello CC - my girls were always very polite and on the whole well behaved... though the eldest went through the terrible twos till she was about six.

Not sure about my OH though he had a fascination with doors when he was young and locked the doors of the chemist shop when he and his mother were in there on a late shopping night - the pharmacist thought business was a bit slow. Another time he lopped the top off his little finger playing with doors. His mother told me that....... no better don't go there Persey.....

Hi Berona how are you - all limbs back into working order now and all itching ceased?

Sue will be so glad I am back on here boring everyone.

Anyway Joan where did you spring from - don't think we have met?

Persey

I am not sure about the genesis of the wheelie bin saga either but I think we have a long way to go yet - only up to Isaiah lot to all bins. I remember when we did numbers and counted them all.

P xx

Edit: I started on this thread page 115 - I went back and looked and got rather sad. I was reading some of Ali's posts... I really miss her.

Where abouts in SA do you eat your cottage pie and chocolate pudding?

I have travelled along the Great Ocean Road - Mt Gambier and on to Adelaide and did the horse tram bit down at Victor Harbor. Loved the market in Adelaide and we spent three days going around all the suburbs there.

I am a big Aussie fan (tho I don't get carried away and wear green and gold) that's why I am allowed on here. That and the fact that my dad was born in Midland Junction Western Perth and my mother's mother was born in Melbourne plus a lot of other rellies and cousie bros are over there.

I am a gold star member of this thread!!!!
eh Allan?

Persey (night night bed time for moi)