General Chat

Well done to your daughter, Linda. And to you and yours I hope you all get a great deal of enjoyment out of your little addition to the family. Congratulations on your first grandchild, may there be many more.

Pam

Good night Tec, and good morning to you, Pam

Allan

Hello all,

Patricia and CC – I don’t even own and overcoat. Haha. Hats are only worn to protect from the sun.

Ah racism. It seems to be in the most unlikely places. Interestingly, when I discovered through my research that my great grandfather (maternal) relocated to Fiji when he left his wife and 3 children and subsequently my grandfather’s brother went to Fiji, found his father and stayed there and married a Fijiian woman, my darling aunt said to me “What?? He married a black?? You mean to say that we have blacks in our family??” She was horrified. -- However, when we had a family reunion last January and some of the ‘Fijiian connecteion’ were there (as we and they say) she was surprised to find them so well educated and behaved. So old habits die hard, I think. My aunt, by the way, is about 83.

My daughter’s first husband is Maltese and I must say that dealing with the cultural differences in a family situation is challenging. Husband’s mother totally spoiled and undermined my daughter’s discipline of the eldest child (first son of the first son of the first son going way back) because that was the way they did it. This boy has suffered badly from this clash from his childhood and still does today (he’s 24 now).

Pam.

I'll have my bottle now, thanks Tec, so that I can make sure I get it, with you lot starting ahead of me!

Well done, Grandma! Hope you now face many years of the enjoyment we get from our grandchildren.

Yeh!! Rub it in CC :0((

Pam, my brothers second wife is Chinese so I have two nephews of that extraction. One nephew from his first marriage has an Asian wife. They have just had their first child so I am a great uncle to a mixed race boy.

My first cousin married a guy from the British Virgin Islands who to be polite was very dark, so I now have two cousins once removed from that marriage.

Both my maternal grandmother and my paternal great grandmother were Irish and I married a Ukranian girl.

There's no point being a racist in my family! :0))

Allan

Now if you and Allan are going to fight CC I'm going to bang your heads together.

Hi Berona - help me sort out the two unruly ones please:-)

Goodnight Tec - sweet dreams.

Hi Pam - my mother does try on occasion. When OH and I went on a cruise to the islands my mother said when we returned "the natives are quite pleasant aren't they and nice looking people" I always hear at the end of the sentence "considering they're black" but maybe I'm being unfair.

Sue xx

Hello Berona.

CC in that respect OH and myself were 'lucky' if you can call it that. When our children were born there were no grandparents around so we had it all to do ourselves!

Even Aunts and Uncles were on the other side of the UK!

Allan

Sue, CC and myself are not fighting, just our usual verbal sparring :0))

Allan

Allan your comments re being rascist is how I feel. We have a number of people from different backgrounds so it's difficult there's no point for us either. Actually I find that my eldest grandchild's Italian Nonno is more rascist than anyone I know:-))

Sue xx

CC - OH's mother's family swear they are Welsh but not so. They may have been a few centuries ago but as far back as the 1700's they lived in Kent. Because the name is Morris they were convinced. The frustrating thing is they won't believe me. There is Welsh in their blood but not the Morris's. I've given up trying to convince them. OH's aunty believes me:-))

Sue xx

Racism exists everywhere but stems from some kind of ignorance - whether that is lack of experience or lack of knowledge, I don't know.

What annoys me most is when ONE person is used as a representative of all population - such as "I know what you lot are like".....followed by some kind of insult. I like to think that I'm not like all 21 million other Australians in all ways!

CC when i first started delving, not too deeply, into the family history I got a fairly detailed trr of one of mt second cousins in England regarding my paternal grandmothers family.

The tree came with the comment thta my great grandmothers first name was not known to my cousin, but that she did come from a wealthy Irish family.

Why then did she marry a journeyman bricklayer?

Berona, my attitude to Race is the same as my attitude to religion. I don't care who or what someone worships so long as they don't force their views onto me.

I don't care what colour a person is jus as long as it is not used as an excuse to get their own way.

I'm fair with anyone who is fair with me (as in plays by the rules not hair type :0)) )


Allan

CC the story hasn't become twisted except that it wasn't the Police. it was by private contractors engaged by the WA State Government.

The gentleman concerned was being transported form Warburton to Kalgoorlie, a distance of over 1000 kms.

the van's air conditioning was not working in the rear and the gentleman was only given a small bottle of water.

Despite the rules stipulating that the prisoner had to be checked every four hours, the two escort officers decided to drive all the way to Kal without stopping. As Warburton is in the Central Dessert outside temperatures reached 50c.

The poor guy cooked, literally.

He was an Aboriginal Elder and much respected in the community.

His crime: traffic offenses.

He wasn't violent and could have easily travelled in the front.

The inquest has only just finished and no one is to be prosecuted over the matter, which is scandalous!

Allan

CC, they will be offered compensation by the State, but some of the top Lawyers are recommending that the family sue the State as well (the one particular lawyer has a social conscience and takes on this type of work pro bono).

There has been some of the same over here CC with intra ethnic gangs fighting each other. This has tended to be more in NSW and Victoria rather than WA

Allan

I don't know CC, but her maiden name was the same as her husband's name (Coe) so I assume that there may have been a family connection except that her husband's family seem to have been in Manchester and Northwich form the early late 1700's

Allan

Sorry people - I disappeared for awhile. Daughter came to collect OH's car as they need a trailer and our car has a tow bar.

Allan - I was disgusted that the poor man was allowed to die in the back of the van. No-one held culpable is even worse.

Sue xx

From the census return CC searching on my grandmothers name, abd on the knowledge that they came from the Northwich Area.

I was thrown once as I found an Annie Coe ( my grt g/m's name) living in Blackpool in the FBMD. As my grandmother was married in Blackpool I made the quantum leap that this was her mother. Needless to say that i missed the target!!

My own great gran was still living in Northwich where she also died!

Allan

CC if the escorts had stuck to written proceedure they would have known what was happening.

I think, form memory that at least some people knew that the airconditioning had broken but whether that included the escotrs I don't know

Allan

CC with respect to my grandmother I now have the family back to 1780 and Manchester and Northwich seem interchangeable, certainly my great grandfather was born in Manchester but when his mother died (aged 25) he went to live with his Uncle's family in Northwich.

Allan

Good night CC Sleep well

Allan