General Chat

Are to be asked to pledge to be courteous on public transport, give up seats to elderly, disabled and pregnant, not use bad language, ant social behaviour etc. If theya re found to not be obeying these rules they could lose their free transport passes. Wonder if it will work?

But that was normal behaviour when we were young Ann. Only had free bus to and from school after leaving primary school.

Its worth a try !!

but will they want it to work both ways? some oldies can be naughtie!
will they lose thier bus pass as well! ?

Do not get me wrong all for politeness, it does not cost anything !!
but its like taking sweets off a child , you can have them when you do as you are told !!

I hope people remember that some children learn from adults!! adverts ect !! so i say get to them earlier when they are quite young, before stroppy teens sets in.

and perhaps we will stand a chance of seeing more children with manners.

Hope it works !

Flo,,,, ,,,,,,,forgot to add good mannered children lead to good mannered adults.

This is just more evidence that Parents are not teaching the children any manners and the state intervening,

It's about time that if the state want to intervene they should start by holding parents accountable,

whilst the state pussyfoot around these things will only get worse.

Roy

Personally being rude etc., is not just confined to the young.

I have not really seen much evidence of bad manners in this age group, many times I have seen a child in school uniform give up a seat. On the other hand many times I have seen louts, both male and female occupying the seats for elderly/disabled, and determinedly not moving when somebody elderly has been standing.these have been in the 16 - 25 age group. I have equally seen other elderly people give up seats and move to the back when somebody more needy has got on. You can't generalise but maybe it is a start.

Spot on PP! I expect and accept a certain amount of 'boistressness (sp :-S) from the under C15s but many older folk are rude, loud and hog seats on buses from those whose need is greater. :-|

As to manners it has brought back an account when I took gdau aged 3 to the Natural History Museum in London. Mid afternoon we went to Harrords to get her some juice etc. On trying to leave Harrods, I opened the door with my gdau in front of me - only to be used as a commission aire by the well suited and booted 'gentlemen' pushing their way in. Eventually I got my voice and yelled -'where are your manners, I am trying to get out with a 3 yr old. - one stopped and apologised - outside - little 'un looked up and said 'London peoples are rude Grandma'.

As Ann says not always the young and certainly in this instance, those who one would expect to know better.

This is what i saw when i went out for a meal last week end .

Young mother with 2 young children. They looked a lovely happy family on next table to us.

On waiting for thier food to arrive they started to get bored ( which is quite natural for young children when they are hungry)

So what did she do? she took them both to a sweet machine, they were quiet yes ! but was that the correct thing to do? NO!!!

obviously was trying to keep them quiet!! but all she was doing was hyping them up!!
Not knocking how she was as a mother ! just that she did not know what she was doing.

More reasons why we should start from very young if we want to see a better society, ( from home and first years of schooling) give back more rights for schools and bring in the parents for support.
Learn them from start to finish how to behave and treat other people!

Flo,,,,,PS, agree with Roy parents should be made accountable, but we do have to remember there are some parents who do thier best and the child still turns bad.

May i had as well!

that i too have had children aged 11 / 16 open doors , asked if i want a seat , even the other day one stopped to have a chat about my lawn on the front of my house, because i was weeding it. wanted to know why.?
All children are not rude!!

I have encounted rude adults one even drew on my husbands car, he was drunk!!( won,t say what he drew). others usual things seats /doors

And i have had visa versa.

But to see an improvement start from the beginning !

Flo

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Why only in London. Is everyone polite everywhere else? I think not.
Will they take away pensioners bus passes if they behave in an unacceptable manner.
The need for politeness isn´t confined to the young.

I only mentioned London Wise as this is where this incident took place and was one of the worst cases of bad manners I have seen, I was concerned that g.child would get hurt.

Sorry Chris. Didn´t mean your post. I agree the incident was appalling.
The original heading read 11-15 year olds in London. That´s what I was referring to.
In my experience manners in Birmingham are just as bad in all sectores of the population, not just teenagers.