General Chat

Allan :-D Maggie does sound stupid paying that much for the coins doesn't it!

:-D :-D :-D :-D

edit: The fact that they will be in circulation - but you can buy them for £10 before they go into circulation - is hilarious!
From the 'Sun'-
"an unlimited number of these are still on sale for £10. You can place your order, although you won't get one until mid-February"
...an 'unlimited number' are on sale? That'll be a few million, then :-D
But - Hey! Spend £10 on something worth 50p! :-D :-D :-D

I read somewhere that some of the remainers won't have anything to do with the new fifty pence piece; I suppose that they just can't accept change.

From the mouth of babes -
Steve Barclay tells Andrew Marr that everything in the garden is ok with Rosy Scenario.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj0W-DHahvg

The EU is working from the WA Treaty, BJ may have signed it but does not appear to have read it. His crew are working from a wish list instead - typical of Dum and Dummer.

[ larfs sardonically ]

I read part of this last night and it seemed somehow apt ( it may just be me of course ;-) )

"We are the music makers,
And we are the dreamers of dreams,
Wandering by lone sea-breakers,
And sitting by desolate streams; —
World-losers and world-forsakers,
On whom the pale moon gleams:
Yet we are the movers and shakers
Of the world for ever, it seems.

With wonderful deathless ditties
We build up the world's great cities,
And out of a fabulous story
We fashion an empire's glory:
One man with a dream, at pleasure,
Shall go forth and conquer a crown;
And three with a new song's measure
Can trample a kingdom down.
......

And therefore to-day is thrilling
With a past day's late fulfilling;
And the multitudes are enlisted
In the faith that their fathers resisted,
And, scorning the dream of to-morrow,
Are bringing to pass, as they may,
In the world, for its joy or its sorrow,
The dream that was scorned yesterday."

Ode
BY ARTHUR O'SHAUGHNESSY

Same here with reference to DNA..
Even though I can trace my Cornish side to 1098 - it appears many were Normans! :-S

One of my brothers (both born in Malta, due to my dad being in the Fleet Air Arm) was refused a passport in the 1980's, because he hadn't been registered in the UK by our parents. He was even threatened with deportation, as an 'illegal alien'!

I mean, if you had a 5 month old, and an 18 month old, would your first thought be - 'I must register their births in the UK, because the Services/Government can't be bothered to link things up'?

What didn't help was that they came over on the 'Windrush' in 1951 - a troopship, which co-incidentally also brought over people invited by the Government at the time, from the Caribbean.
People the Government in the 1980's was, (and still is) trying to rid itself of.

Under a different (earlier) Government, the other brother got a passport with no problem.

I'd put up smiley emoticons, but somehow they wouldn't be appropriate.

This is how many of the redneck brigade will feel and it is also how wars start.

I've had my DNA tested and with my ethnic results, I doubt that I would ever get a UK passport again if that was the criteria used, despite being born in Britain to British parents ;-)

Well, Alan, it appears we have the first of the 'We won, we're British, you aren't' missives:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-51341735

When will 'they' start demanding DNA proof to live here - and where will I go?

Edit: just like to point out, not only the lack of an 'Oxford' comma, but the total lack of punctuation! :-|

Namelessone, re your post of 14.56, I'm certainly in that category of the long retired :-D :-D

I agree with Rose. The government will no longer be able to 'hide behind' EU directives or rules. They will have to stand up in the wind that will blow, whether it be a gentle, warm breeze or Hurricane Boris.

The Brexiters blamed the Remain faction for the failure of May's Withdrawal Agreement. They ignore the hard fact that the ERG destroyed the agreement and drove May from office.

I did not much like May's agreement but it was pragmatic and fairly reflected the narrow referendum result as well as the ongoing drift of support to Remain, If it had been passed by the Commons the country very likely would have been able to move on.

Instead we have the current imminent disaster.

Fishing is as good an example as any of the absurdity of the UK position. Several trawlers are out of service in Scotland because the Home Office will not grant visas to skilled fishermen from outside of the EU. This dangerous and difficult job is not regarded as "skilled" and does not reach the £ 38 000 salary bar.
For those boats that can land a catch most of it is exported to the EU. If the UK bars EU boats from their current fishing rights the EU side would simply bar imports from the UK and the UK boats and wholesalers would go bust.
As it stands the UK does not have enough inshore fishing protection vessels to police our waters, nowhere near. Other EU navies have been helping out. That will pretty obviously stop. Instead foreign & EU boats will be able to do as they wish and the Brits will be unable to do very much about it. As well as a commercial disaster the successful ecological policies would be at grave risk.

And so it goes on one thing after another.

It will be interesting to see how well the English will like the winter version of Narnia. The Scots and Northern Irish are already kicking in the door of the exit.

Who will win the blame game?

Allan

There were always plenty of jobs for those that understand the forms (Carnet).

Unfortunately all those that could would be well retired but niw.

Do not for one minute misunderstand my post, gracious in defeat is one thing, thinking the leavers are right and accepting the country will be better for it is another.

I do not accept this was a good thing, but I do think it will ( maybe) finally put the praise or blame where it belongs, on the government of this country ( of whatever shade it may be now or in future). The buck now stops here!

It was certainly in existence from 1975 until 1982, which is the length of time I carried out port health duties in Grimsby before leaving for Oz.

All Official Certificates were checked, particularly for any meat and meat products and samples taken for various teats.

Under the than existing legislation, we could either detain such products until we had the results, or let them go forward.

We could also let the product go forward, without checking it, but the local authority into which it was dur to go took on the role of 'Port Health Authority and became responsible for all checks etc..

It is my belief that it is already in existence, Rollo. It's just that they don't check everything coming in as it would be impossibly time-consuming.

Perhaps they intend to do so now ..... but I doubt it.

Maybe the journo has got a bee in the bonnet? If so, Wakey Wakey!

Fake news as our erstwhile pal across the pond likes to call it? :-D

I'm sure I could find a use for one :-D

Doesn't take all that much time.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/01/johnson-to-impose-full-customs-checks-on-goods-from-eu-report

nuts

Today's Daily Mail is offering free Brexit Tea Towels. :-|

Yep time will tell and (ever hopeful) we may be pleasantly surprised. Not that some of the remainers would ever admit it if we were. :-) :-) Time to move forward.

That is the right attitude Rose not spreading doom and gloom and protesting like some folk :-D. All the b******t from media won't change things , time will tell won't it :-D