General Chat

Good Morning, Guten Morgen, Buon giorno, Buenos dias, Bore da, Maidin Mhaith, Bonjour and.... G'day.....:>))) Just covering all bases....lol Gwenda. I dont understand it myself mate, but i do know my Ancestors loved each other.........literally...hee hee Happy Anniversary to you and Dave......and wish you both a great day.x Hi Joy ( cuz ) Well..... perhaps i should adopt you?..... or maybe we should have a DNA test?...I am working on our Cousinship..and i feel i would only have to find one of my Williamson clan to have crossed over the County boarder...and i just know we would be cousins....lol.... Its a SADD life we live, not knowing our cousins......:>))) Off do do some more F.H digging...i just know there's some more dirt to find. My Humphrey Williamson tree is expanding.........or.....should that read, Hump-me Williamson ?...:>))) Av a good un. Tony Oz.....:>))) * still wondering what a Pickle is doing on the Towoomba Chronicle*

Oo Tony you're a card! My sister's married to a Williamson, so we're probably related to. Not to mention the Richardson connection, lol. Happy Anniversary Gwenda and Dave. Hope you have a wonderful day. Anything special planned? We've had rain!!!!!! 19mm and I feel there's more to come. It rained steadily all night and on the tin roof sounded fantastic. Fluffy and Trifles, have a brilliant day with your mini meets. Well, I'm off to do some research. Chat soon Lew Lew xxx

Morning Wattlers Well we have got the best of days here today, yesterday was also great but I was too busy witht he free time at Ancestry to see much of the outside world, but I did fing my GG Grandparents and GGG Grandparents on different census'mainly 1841 and 1871, very interesting as I hadnt ventured that far with my research as yet, with me only doing my tree for a couple of years. Gwenda and Dave Happy Anniversary. I hope you have a lovely time. Anything special planned ?? Sounds like some are meeting up in Qld, do we get pickies??? I wont be about tomorrow as I have to drive the bus to Burnie this time for a meeting, Dannielle wants to come too for a drive and as we have a spare seat everyone said that will be ok, Im sure she will find something to amuse herself as a friend husband is also coming and they might go for a walk along the beach while we are in our meeting. Tamika has got work tomorrow otherwise she could have come too. But she did love her first pay and first up she gave me some money to put in a savings account for her and then she went and bought some clothes, didnt have a lot left but I dont think many would for their first pay. At least she dint waste it on junk :-) Well off to sit in sun for a while. ~~~~~ to all~~~~ Cheers Sue

Goodmorning one and all . . . an overcast day here on the bay - not much in the way of heavy falls of rain here in the last 24hrs, but lots of drizzle. Just watching two ships pass in the heads - one coming - one going, looking all shrouded in mystery in the clouds and fog. There are five giraffe necks stretched high in the clouds (6 if you count Imara here on the sideboard) Thanks to the Queen, Bazza now has his own pet giraffe, and chosen the name Imara! Happy Anniversary Gwenda & Dave . . . hope you have a lovely day and do something special. I had a lovely day yesterday - always fun to spend time with Shazza . . . lots of laughing! Sure the girls meeting up today will have a wonderful time . . both in Toowoomba, and at Redcliffe. What you got planned this weekend Jood . . . hope if yourv'e got plans out and about the weather is kind to you. But, TLR dina have a very good day yesterday - p'd off with big mouths as a transaction going thru sensitive stage . . thought I would be packing to go home this morning . . . but no such luck! Big flurry of phone calls all night and early this morning trying to convince him otherwise . . drat it . . . they worked! Wont I have some words to say this year at the Christmas party . . (says he is leaving me home . . . dont think so!) Like the others have said Tony - song says it all !!! We're probably going to find we are all cousins Joy . . . . teeheeee I have one of those mixed-oops in TLR's family . . . put it away for a spell as it had me going around in circles. Had birth certs of gtgran Eliz Anne, and showed her parents, but on census father is different name . . so assumed it was a typo . . her marriage & death both had same as birth, (James) but the mother went thru with John by her side . . . turns out gtgrans dad James, died when she was a bub, and mum married his father John. Eliza Anne went on to marry her cousin . . (I get some mileage out of some of the relationships that have come to light teeeheee) You will have to scan the article Anna, and send it to us so we can see the whole thing . . . Numbers look good Wilson, just hope the silly machine knows which ones it has to pull out !! Good luck tonight all . . . BTW . . . as Vonny has handed me the controls of the ship in the weekender, while she is away . . . NEW RULE . . . . ANYTHING GOES !!!!! teeeeheeee catch ya all later luv Laurie . . . Princess of the Nile ( I know cause it says so on the parcel the Queen sent . . . Posty lady sure did look at me funny !!! LOL)

lol...Lew. Who knows mate?. I dont reeeeeeally mind my G,Great marrying my G,Grandads sister....but i can just visualize the scenario in 1851.and think he should'a kept his mits offa my G,Grandads sister. He was born 1813...she was born 1835.........22 odd years her snr. Nothing wrong with that.....but its the sneaky way he went aboot it. Can just see him waltzing into town ( widowed ) with 3 kids. His eldest, Elizabeth.... marry's Ben Hull (eventually )....then he realizes Ben has an older sister.....He thinks...Mmmmmm..cute likkle filly......lol.....In 1854 he is 41 ......she is 19.......so he hangs around a bit. Next minute....Whammo...she has illigitemate child born 1855........and agin....Whammo....Illegitimate child 1860...but he gets caught out this time, and is nominated as the father...........so he decides to marry her in 1861..( goody two shoes )....but a bit late mate.......cos ya got sprung.....:>))) and...he didnt realize his decendants in 2006 would find out aboot it.....tsk tsk.... Shame shame shame...lol Name witheld.....:>)))

You crazy guy! And hey nothing wrong with 22 years difference, lol (exactly the difference between me and Tez!)

Lew...lol I agree mate. Nothing wrong with that......as i said.....but...its the way he went aboot it. Why didnt he av the guts to say..He'y...the kid born in 1855 is mine, and be a man about it....instead of sneaking aboot the hoose late at night. Good thing he got sprung.......otherwise i would never had found out who the two kids father was.....:>)))) Every dog has its day.....lol Shame shame shame. Tony Oz...:>)))

G'day All Wattlers, Just popped in quick and say hello, had lots of rain since Thursday, sorry fanny you dident get much up your end, my daughter lives closer to your end and they dident get much either up till Friday morning, its very heavy cloud today maybe some more rain? Happy Anniversary Gwenda and John have a great day. Have been doing lots of odd jobs, have even wrapped Xmas presents, had a new hot match so am busy sorting it out as a very deffinite branch of our tree. ((((((((((((to all who are below par))))))))))) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ to everyone have a great Sat whats left of it. catch you later on perhaps Sandra in the Gong

Randy ole men in your tree Tony (tee hee) But then even the married ones had 10-12 children, and if the wife died, they remarried and had another 10 or so. .. The poor wimmen probably didn't know when it was safe to have 'it' or not (and probably had no choice!!) lol No, Laurie, not going anywhere till Monday. .. I wouldnt have even gone out this morning, only the lens kept falling out of my glasses, and I thought I better rush up to the optician before 12, and then I did a bit of food shopping. .. Today was the first time I'd been out since Thursday. It's winter up here in the mountains today, cold and showery .. mind you, I'm not complaining. .. I tossed up whether to go to the movies or not, then thought no, I would come home and waste time lol Will look forward to the Brizzie meet pickles .. I think that lot have more meets than any of us. Ooops - an afterthought - congratulations Gwen & Dave. Jood

Arfnoon Wattlers.. Drizziling here a bit but not much. Could do with a bit more.. Tony Just loved your story about your grandparents. how on earth did you work it all out.I would have spent years going around in circles. I think in Mudgee you should give us a lesson on how to think like our ancestors in order to find out what they have been doing and thus make it easier to find them.It took me 12 months to find 1 illegitimate daughters birth.Kept thinking parents were married..Just didnt think on those lines when I was looking. Congratulations to the happy couple..Gwenda and Dave.. Just might do some FH this afternoon so back later Love Mary xxxx

Hi Wattlers, From a very wet and windy Biddaddaba. We had 40mm over night and it has been raining ever since, sometimes very light but just now very heavy. Bewdiful I spent this morning on internal beautification technology ( h******k) and then computer cleanup and defrag. I am now ready to go. Had a couple of good hot matches, one a definate, so that makes a change. But I did update my tree last week. Have a great day Gwenda, did you get a pressie? I think the women in the 1850 were much more daring than those today. Would have made sex and the city tame. It makes you wonder how many children actually got the right surname. On Neville's side, his gt grandfather was given his mothers surname but she married a few months after his birth, if this man was the father we would have all been called Stubbs now. But we will never know. Does anyone remember the musical Sunset Boulevard staring Debra Byrne as Norma Desmond. Well, I just saw a picture of it and guess what, Debra was wearing the golden headgear that Laurie sent to Trifley. Nothing but the best for the Queen. LOL Hope The Redcliffe meet went off okay inspite of the rain, and also Trifley and Anna, hope you had a good day, or should I say day and half. Trifley, be careful when heading back down that mountain road especially in this weather. Laurie, what made you cry, was it the giraffe? Can I have a night off the naked rain dance please? Look in later Luv SuzyQ ( with fingers and toes crossed)

Mary. I use the 'Birds of a feather stick together' rule of thumb. The Census 1841 to 1901 is my bible in most cases......but not always. More of a missing person newspaper...lol I categories the Rich from the Poor. The humble Ag Lab. ( Agricultral farmer )about 80% of our tree in some cases. His family were poor, and travel was usually out of the question.... apart from the later or last born children from a large family,( who couldnt wait to escape ) so he didnt move far between Census years, and if he did it was most likely to neighbouring Villages.When one family moved then you can nearly bet your bottom dollar there close neighbour moved also. ( Mateship ) When i find an Ancestor on an early Census, i also take note of neighbours and there occupation eg: Ag,Labs......and there surnames. Scenario ( marry the girl/boy next door..theory ) for poor Ag,Labs...and neighbouring families, they stuck to-gether like thieves....from the earliest records to the latest...SCENARIO: Two neighbouring Ag,Lab Farmers working in a field. One says, My son would like to court your daughter. Small Villages.... some not bigger than a shopping centre, and Mrs. Smith down the road new what Mrs. Jones was doing 24/7....lol One of many Scenario's i use. Some of my ancestors from 1600s to 1890s. in 4 neighbouring Villages within a total distance of 5 miles in a strictly Ag. Lab 'scenario' Ag. Labs with same religious denomination. 1600s Williamson marrys Raven....Raven marrys Hull......Hull marrys French....French marry's Williamson....Raven marry's French.........French marry's Smith......Potter marry's Pennock. 1700s same 4 Villages: Smith marry's Williamson.......Williamson marry's Hull......French marry's Hull........Williamson marry's Blackwell......Raven marry's Hales........Hales marry's Pudney......Williamson marry's Hales......Pennock marry's Hull....Williamson marry's Osbourne Census 1840s to 1901 1800s. same 4 to 5 neighbouring Villages. Blackwell marry's Williamson......Williamson marry's Sharpe.......Sharpe marry's Hull.......Raven marries Blackwell......Williamson marry's Smith......Hull marry's Smith........Pudney marry's Hull.......Hull marry's Hales.....Osbourne marry's Hull.......so down the generations from the 1600's to the 1890s there is a pattern, and from the Census i can track there movements. If they are missing between census, then there are questions. Moved O/seas? Died? Surname mistranscibed? Married? ( females ) Not on Census....last resort. Tony Oz...:>))

Hi, Yes Tony, I can understand that reasoning, I always look at neighbours in the census and often the same families live in the same street or you find families of spouse's. The exception, in my case anyway, is around the 1850's when many of my ancestors moved from Kent, Essex and Oxfordshire to Bradford. My guess is that they were looking for work in the woollen mills at the time. I also had ancestors around this time that moved to Bradford from Northumberland, obviously same reason. Still raining SuzyQ

Hi Susy.Yes, there are many scenarios, and i was pointing out one i use a lot with Ag,Labs......but it did happen a lot. I was reading about English history from the early 1600s..people were very supersticious ( Witches & Goblins )...and they only trusted there own and very close neighbours. The Irish were the best at this, and reading a little history of the Irish in one case......i read not just a few neighbours, but a whole town in one case, packed up and moved to Australia. Cant remember the book, but it was very interesting reading. Many towns people got to gether and paid passage for one of there own to come here.......and when the word got back, that all was well ( Downunder ) ..the whole Town packed up and moved....lol Tony Oz...:>))

Hi Tony, They must have been a very adventurous lot. I am guessing some didn't survive the journey. Made of tougher stuff in those days and probably didn't have anything to loose. A good book to read about lives in the 12th cenyury in The Pillars of the Earth by Ken Follett. It is all about the building of catherdrals and churches but follows the life of one family. Its a bif thick book but well worth the read. SuzyQ

Suzy and Tony. You both make a lot of sence. I will have to start looking at the neighbours in future..That shows you how much I still have to learn, My family were also great wanderers and didnt stay in one place for long.Though some did my line decided to branch out to greener pastures.The little buggers.. It is turning a bit cooler this afternoon, may go and put on a jumper.. Love Maryxxx

Hi Mary Its getting cold here I was just thinking of putting on track pants and a warmer top. It's lovely, its pouring down. All the empty farm dams are filling up. Hope its hitting the catchment areas and the farmers further west. SuzyQ

Great pickle of your house, Tassie. Bet those roses smell wonderful. We knew you wouldn't leave that letterbox behind, lol. Very cold here this afternoon, with patchy, drizzly rain. Out for dinner tonight, but I would have liked to stay home in my pjs with a nice pizza instead, lol Fingers crossed for the big one tonight!!!!! Lew Lew xxx

its chilly here too, breeze is fresh, but no more wet stuff. this afternoons cricket has been called off, kids were originally devastated, but they got over it. we've been at cricket this morning, dealt with the score updates etc this afternoon and fiddled about a bit.should do something but I'm yawning my head off. Jood, Sandra and I are going to meet up in sydney town on Thursday 7th December - anybody feel like a little time out? Tony, our relos were the same, cept they travelled about the countryside with them. Find a street with one in and all you do is go from household to household (up and down the streets) in the census to locate others. this sounds funny but i have cousins who we know we are related to, but can't get the relationship thing happening. we also have too much of a relationship thing happening too. this still happens you know. a relative of mine divorced her husband. ex h's bros wife had passed away and the bro in law was lonely. tried ever so hard to hit it off with his ex sil. It would have been workd war 3 amongst the entire (large & extended family) just thought i'de share that with you. we have a very large and varied web of ex in laws, step and halvies. love Yvette

Suzy I am so pleased it is raining heavy up your way.We havent had much, just cloud and a bit of drizzle. I hope the catchment area has had some though.. Put a jumper on and feel a bit better. Got a bit cold this arvo.. Would be nice if we won something tonight..Just something to help with the Christmas presents Thursday 7th sounds OK for me, Just before I go to Canberra for the meet on the 9th. Leaving for Canberra on friday 8th.You know me,, Ill do anything for a feed.. Must do dinner so back later Love Mary xxx.