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Hi, I think I may have found an ancestor on Familysearch. The record I am looking gives the address for baptism as: Dyninlle Uchaf, Ruabon, Denbigh, Wales. I am okay with the Ruabon, Denbigh, Wales bit, but what does the Dyninlle Uchaf mean? I have tried 'googling' it, but nothing comes up! Any offers. I have this particular ancestor on the 1861 census as being born in ??Garleford, Wales and his wife ?Naffut, Wales. If anybody wants to have a look on the 1861 census, here are the details: John Prince, head, 60, Gardener,............. Harriet Prince, wife, 50, laundress........... Census address, Broad Lane, Cheetham, Manchester. Thanks in advance for your replies. Best wishes Carol.

Not much use, but I do know that 'Uchaf' means higher, as opposed to 'Isaf' which is lower. I don't recognise Dyninlle, but will check in my Welsh dictionary. Of course it could be a family name. nell

Just found these on familysearch: 40. John Prince - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 04 FEB 1801 Dyninlle Uchaf, Ruabon, Denbigh, Wales 41. James Prince - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 14 JUN 1802 Dyninlle Isaf, Ruabon, Denbigh, Wales So the Uchaf and Isaf are to differentiate two separate places. nell

Cazzie I don't but my cousin's son does, I will try and find out for you....but he is coming to stay with me at the end of June so if you had more queries then we could sort them. In the meantime I will email him..... Jacquie

Hi again! Just found a Dinhunlle Isaf south east of Ruabon on www streetmap uk co [insert . where there are spaces] Not sure if this is a hamlet, or a farm. nell

Think you,ll find Denbigh is South Wales,in the Rhondda valley near Pontypridd..

Thank you all for your helpful replies. Did anybody manage to take a look at the 1861 census and make out what the ?Garleford? could be. I'm not very good at deciphering writing - although I should be; I work for a doctor!! Thanks and best wishes, Carol.

Frostyboy Denbigh is in Denbighshire, North Wales, not the Rhondda, which is in Glamorganshire. nell nell

Cazzie You might have better luck if you ask someone to check the census on the Records Office board - lots of eager looker-uppers don't visit the gen. topics board. Do you know where John & Harriet got married and when they went to Manchester? nell

Hi, me again! Just looked on 1861 ancestry and wonder now if it might be GRESFORD, as this is in Denbighsire? Might be on a winner here!! Thanks, Carol. Hi Nell, only just noticed your reply. Will go on to the records/tips board and this also. Don't know when John and Harriet got married, but they were living in Manchester by 1841 with 5 children, the eldest being christened on 16.02.1834 in Manchester. Thank you Carol.

Cazzie, He was born in Gresford. She was born in Rossett. Janice

Hi Janice Thank you very much!! Best wishes, Carol. Just in case you see the original on the records board, I have only just put it on, then saw your reply - I'm not ignoring your info. Thanks, Carol.

cazzie i dont speak welsh son does but doesnt know what it means personally it looks like a street name, or school, the way its written sorry cant be of any help