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Passenger lists Australia to UK 1980 onwards

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Aug 2019 13:35

Harry and Sybil/Sybilla senior were together in Carshalton 1935-9 - already posted.

Here in 1932 - and also in 1931:

Sybilla Garbett
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Sybilla Garbett
Year: 1932
County or Borough: Islington
Ward or Division/Constituency: Islington East and North
Street address: 61 Oxford Road


Harry's there on his own (at least with no other Garbetts) in 1925:

Harry Garbett
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Harry Garbett
Year: 1925
County or Borough: Islington
Ward or Division/Constituency: Islington
Street address: 61 OXFORD ROAD-conid


Can't find any clues as to who Sybil(la) was - supposedly born Spenser, 25 May 1899.

No birth of a Sybil* Spenser in 1899. No sign of one in 1901 or 1911.
There are a few Sibyl Spencers born around the right time, but not exactly.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Aug 2019 11:52

Death of Sybilla's husband:

Thomas Leonard Guthrie
in the Australia and New Zealand, Find A Grave Index, 1800s-Current
Name: Thomas Leonard Guthrie
Death Date: 1976
Cemetery: Mudgee General Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Mudgee, Mid-Western Regional Council, New South Wales, Australia

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Aug 2019 10:40

???

Harry Garbett
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Harry Garbett
Age in 1911: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Resident
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Wick, Warwick, England [ Birmingham on image ]
Civil Parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: Rowton House, Lodging House For Men, 1 To 25 (Odd) Kings Cross Road, London W C
Marital status: Widowed <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Occupation: BILL POSTER
Registration district: St Pancras
Registration District Number: 9
Sub-registration district: South St Pancras
ED, institution, or vessel: 27-32
Piece: 710

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 Aug 2019 10:40

Family on that Passenger list, in case related -

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

Births Dec 1944 (>99%)
Garbett Terence Thornton Keighley 9a 353

Births Sep 1946 (>99%)
Garbett Pamela A Thornton Dartford 5b 816

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Marriage of parents
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1942 (>99%)

Garbett John R Thornton Dartford 2a 2737
Thornton Audrey Garbett Dartford 2a 2737

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Aug 2019 10:39

Harry Garbutt
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Harry Garbutt
[Harry Garbett]
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Birmingham
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors:
Piece: 2843
Folio: 33
Page Number: 1
Household schedule number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
William Garbutt 35
Sarah A Garbutt 25
William Garbutt 6
Samuel Garbutt 4
Katie Garbutt 2
Harry Garbutt 17

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Aug 2019 10:38

Harry Edward Garbett
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Harry Edward Garbett
Registration Year: 1883
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Aston
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 369


Harry E Garbett
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Harry E Garbett
Gender: Male
Age: 7
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1884
Father: Samuel Garbett
Mother: Caroline Garbett
Birth Place: Aston, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Residence Place: Bordesley, Aston, Warwickshire, England
Sub Registration District: Duddeston
ED, Institution or Vessel: 6
Neighbors:
Piece: 2416
Folio: 108
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Garbett 50
Caroline Garbett 48
Walter E Garbett 28
William H Garbett 25
Rose A Garbett 14
Samuel Garbett 13
George Garbett 11
Harry E Garbett 7

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Aug 2019 10:29

Sybilla's mother Sybil following to Australia in 1953 - address the same as Sybil's in Gosling Way:

Mrs S Garbett
in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Mrs S Garbett
Gender: Female
Age: 54
Birth Date: abt 1899
Departure Date: 18 Mar 1953
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
Ship Name: Oronsay
Shipping Line: Orient Line
Official Number: 184451
Master: Paul Sargent

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 Aug 2019 10:26

Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960

First name(s) S E
Last name Garbett
Title MISS
Gender Female
Age 19
Birth year 1932
Occupation FACTORY WKR
Departure year 1951
Departure day 5
Departure month 9
Departure port Southampton
Destination port Sydney
Destination SYDNEY
State New South Wales
Country Australia
Destination country Australia
Ship name Asturias
Ship master's first name B C
Ship master's last name DODDS
Shipping line ORIENT
Ship destination port AUSTRALIA
Ship destination country AUSTRALIA
Number of passengers 1154
Record set Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960

Her last UK address - 238 Gosling Way, Vassal road, Brixton, London SW9

On ticket No. 727


Other people associated with this record.
All from last address in UK - 28 Beltwood Road, Belvedere, Kent
All on ticket No. 726

Mr J R Garbett - 32 Carpenter
Mrs A Garbett - 31 Wife
Master T Garbett - 6 son
Miss P A Garbett - 5 daughter

Country of future permanent residence - Australia

So either very coincidental people of same name on record OR she was a relative
? sister/cousin to JR. Ticket numbers concurrent, ? suggests a link?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Aug 2019 10:25

NO - FORGET the Harrry E Garbett who married Violet Saunders.


The Harry with Sybil is a different man.


Harry E Garbett
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Harry E Garbett
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 26 Jul 1904
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 6
Residence Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Occupation: Polisher - Motor Aero & Electric - pls
Schedule Number: 26
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: QBFY
Registration district: 384/8
Inferred Spouse: Violet L Garbett
Inferred Children: Doris G Garbett
Household Members:
Name
Harry E Garbett
Violet L Garbett
Doris G Garbett

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Aug 2019 10:20

Yes, definitely her - here's another version:

Miss Syvil Ethel Garbett
in the Fremantle, Western Australia, Passenger Lists, 1897-1963
Name: Miss Syvil Ethel Garbett
Birth Date: abt 1932
Departure Date: 5 Sep 1951
Departure Place: Southampton, United Kingdom
Arrival Date: 30 Sep 1951
Arrival Place: Sydney, Australia
Age on Arrival: 19
Vessel: Asturias

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Aug 2019 10:17

??

Sybil Ethel Garbett
in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Sybil Ethel Garbett
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1954
Subdistrict: Bondi
State: New South Wales
District: Phillip
Country: Australia

Also another Sybil Garbett at the same address.



??

Sybil Garbett
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Sybil Garbett
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 29 May 1899
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 9
Residence Place: Carshalton, Surrey, England
Occupation: Upd
Schedule Number: 207
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: CMGD
Registration district: 31-2.
Inferred Spouse: Harry E Garbett
Household Members:
Name
Harry E Garbett - 9 May 1883
Sybil Garbett
(and one closed record) <<<<<<<<



Marriages Jun 1927 (>99%)
GARBETT Harry E Saunders Birmingham N. 6d 904
Marriages Jun 1927 (>99%)
SAUNDRS Violet L Garbett Birmingham N 6b 904

Perhaps he couldn't mary Sybil if already married ???


Harry Edward Garbett
in the Sutton, Surrey, England, Electoral Registers, 1931-1970
Name: Harry Edward Garbett
Year: 1938
Parliamentary Division: Carshalton, Surrey, England
Reference Number: 047

[ with Sybilla Garbett ] Also in 1935 - 7.



Harry E Garbett
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Harry E Garbett
Death Age: 66
Birth Date: abt 1883
Registration Date: Jul 1949
[Aug 1949]
[Sep 1949]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Surrey North eastern
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 5g
Page: 382



So after his death I'm guessing Sybil and Sybilla went to Australia ??


???

Miss S E Garbett
in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Miss S E Garbett
Gender: Female
Age: 19
Birth Date: abt 1932
Departure Date: 5 Sep 1951
Port of Departure: London, England
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
Ship Name: Asturias
Shipping Line: Orient Line
Master: B C Dodds

Travelling alone - there's a Garbett family also on that ship, but they seem to be separate from Sybilla.
Sybil's address: 238 Gosling Way, Vassal Road, Brixton, London SW9.
Occupation: Factory worker

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 19 Aug 2019 09:45

Here's her birth. Not seeing a marriage for her parents or any siblings:

Births Dec 1931
Garbett Sybilla E Spenser Finsbury 1b 784

She appears on the 1954 Australian Electoral Register and then appears to be married by 1958.

Rose

Ian

Ian Report 19 Aug 2019 09:12

Wow thank you all for your super help
her nee name was Garbett I believe married Thomas Guthrie he died Australia 1976

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 19 Aug 2019 01:51

Bit more info. on that Edinburgh death"


SYBILLA GUTHRIE, d.o.b: 28/11/1931: place of birth: Unknown, who resided at Guthrie Court Nursing Home, 10 Lasswade Road, Edinburgh, EH16 6RZ and who died at Royal Infirmary, Edinburgh, EH16 4SA on 03/02/2015. QLTR Ref: UH/9/19

Rose

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 18 Aug 2019 18:01

Is Guthrie her maiden name or married name?
Was she born in Australia?
What were her parents' names?


Very long shot:

???

Sybilla Ethel Guthrie
in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Sybilla Ethel Guthrie
Gender: Female
Electoral Year: 1980
Subdistrict: Mudgee
State: New South Wales
District: Paterson
Country: Australia



?? Just a very slight maybe - don't know your Sybil's age, and this record has no middle name:

Death:

GUTHRIE
SYBILLA
83
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2015
734/ 282
Edinburgh, Central

Ian

Ian Report 18 Aug 2019 13:37

Thank you for your kind help
I will try and find more family details and get back.
Regards Ian

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Aug 2019 13:27

do you have a rough birth year? Might place where and when she died.
There won't be passenger records, but you might be able to check electoral rolls if it can be found where she lived/died.

Ian

Ian Report 18 Aug 2019 13:22

Hi Rambling
Not sure where she lived died the family believe she arrived in the UK in the 1980s from Australia.

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Aug 2019 13:10

No records for that time period, when and where did she die?

Ian

Ian Report 18 Aug 2019 13:02

Are there records kept for arrivals from Australia to the UK 1980s onwards
Looking for Sybil Ethel Guthrie (diseased)