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Looking for my paternal grandfather

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emily

emily Report 14 Apr 2020 11:37

Hi all,

I am struggling to find my paternal grandfather. I have been told he was called Alan Simpson and was an electrician in London. He had a son in 1963 called Leslie R H Simpson but never married the mother Sonia Noden. He has a very common name and with so little information I am not sure how to narrow the search down. I would very much like to know if he still alive and whether he had anymore children

Tips would be appreciated

Thank you

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 14 Apr 2020 12:12

cant sonia give you more info ?

emily

emily Report 14 Apr 2020 12:39

No I'm afraid not. I have no contact with her and she was not willing to have a relationship with her son or his children unfortunately.

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 14 Apr 2020 20:21

Does Leslie have his birth certificate? Seeing as he was registered under Simpson, his dad's name and address should be on there.

Rose

malyon

malyon Report 15 Apr 2020 12:58

do you know when your grandfather was born did have a middle name

emily

emily Report 16 Apr 2020 16:32

Hi I have been able to track down a birth certificate! The name is Alan Edward Simpson of 206 Wulfstone street W12. The street name might be wrong as it is hard to read!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Apr 2020 16:50

That'll be Wulfstan Street, in Shepherd's Bush..

https://www.zoopla.co.uk/property/206-wulfstan-street/london/w12-0ad/25147436

In 1963 he's at that address with Hettie L, Terry, and Robert Simpson. (Name spelled Allan )

Terry Simpson
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Terry Simpson
Electoral Date: 1963
Street address: 206 Sent [ 206 Wulfstan Street on the image ]
Ward or Division/Constituency: Old Oak
County or Borough: Hammersmith, England
Reference Number: LCC/PER/B/2850

They're also there in 1964 and 1965.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Apr 2020 17:06

This looks like them in 1939:

Allan E Simpson
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Allan E Simpson
Gender: Male
Marital status: Single
Birth Date: 8 Jan 1937
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 13 Heathstan Road.
Residence Place: Hammersmith, London, England
Occupation: Under School Age
Schedule Number: 196
Sub Schedule Number: 7
Enumeration District: AJCE
Registration district: 3/1
Household Members:
Name
William H Kendall - 22 Dec 1893
Laura Kendall 0 8 Oct 1893
Robert Simpson - 9 Aug. 1912, Night cleaner machinery (food manufacturer); ARP fireman
Hetty L Simpson - 13 Feb 1916
Cyril H Kendall - 17 Oct 1918
William L Kendall - 25 Oct 1921
Allan E Simpson

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Apr 2020 17:09

Hetty L Simpson
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Hetty L Simpson
Death Age: 52
Birth Date: abt 1917
Registration Date: Jan 1969
[Feb 1969]
[Mar 1969]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Hammersmith
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5b
Page: 687



Hetty's birth:

KENDALL, HETTY LORRAINE mms THOMAS
GRO Reference: 1916 M Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 1168


Marriages Sep 1936 (>99%)
Kendall Hettie L Simpson Hammersmith 1a 882
Simpson Robert Kendall Hammersmith 1a 882


Births Mar 1937 (>99%)
Simpson Allan E Kendall Hammersmith 1a 348
Simpson Allan E Kendall Hm'smith 1a 248

The original typed entry on the Index is the top one (page 348), then there's a handwritten note at the foot of the page, giving the page number 248.



I don't see his death definitively, Emily, but as his 1939 entry is visible, he is deceased.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Apr 2020 17:39

An Allan E Simpson married in Hammersmith in 1975, to a Winifred, whose full name I won't post in case she's still living..

I don't see her birth with that name, nor a previous marriage.

You can look up the marriage yourself on FreeBMD:
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Of course, I can't say if that's the right Allan, or some totally different person.
You'd have to see the marriage cert to see parents' names

ADDED:
A Winifred Simpson with the right middle initial, with an Allan E Simpson, were on the 2002 Tyne & Wear Electoral Roll.

emily

emily Report 17 Apr 2020 08:07

Wow thank you so much! My Dad passed on his middle name of Robert to my brother. We never knew the significance.

My Dad always wondered about his Dad but was never able to find anything out. Thanks so much for this I really appreciate it

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Apr 2020 10:21

Possibly Hetty's parents' marriage :

Marriages Mar 1913 (>99%)
Kendall William H Thomas Pontypridd 11a 1139
Thomas Norah Kendall Pontypridd 11a 1139


Allan had a younger sister, born early 1940s, who married in 1963 in Hammersmith.


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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 17 Apr 2020 11:54

Winifred's maiden name looks to be Little. She had a 3 children from her previous marriage.

Rose

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Apr 2020 12:45

Oh yes, well found, Rose.

There are a few Simpson/ Little births after 1975, in Birmingham, Lancaster, and Northumberland - but impossible to know if any were Allan & Winifred's.

emily

emily Report 17 Apr 2020 14:37

Thank you that's great! I've been able to find that Allan was alive in 2016 but can't find anything after.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Apr 2020 16:01

If you look at "Search all member trees" under "Search" at the top right of this page, and search for Allan Simpson, born 1937, there are two results.

One is presumably in your own tree, but the other tree owner is "Allan".
You could click on "Find out more" and send a message.
Or perhaps you are already aware of another Allan in the family, with a GR tree.

But be very tactful - whoever this is, he may not know anything about Sonia or her child (assuming he's related in some way) , and it could open a whole can of unwanted and upsetting worms..

Of course, no matter who this "Allan" is, he may not be able or willing to receive your message or to reply to it, for a great number of possible reasons. Illness, death, loss of interest in family research, a different email address - and so on.

GR never deletes a tree, so that might be the correct Allan's tree, but as he is deceased, he obviously won't be able to answer your message.