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David may not be keeping an eye on this thread but you can send him a pm by clicking on his name. As long as he has kept his email address up to date he will get a notification from Genes.

Hello. I am one of the two daughters of Brian Brolly. His parents were Jean/Jane McNiven and Hugh Brolly along with his sister Margeret who is still alive and well in York.
Jean had other children in Scotland also that we are aware of but wasn't sure of names, except a Aunt we have named Sally who was my dad's half sister.

My dad passed 25 years ago to the day, and Jean (my grandmother) before that and we never knew her.

If I can be of any help do get in touch, although we know very little also about your Mother I'm afraid.

PM from David today confirms the 1933 birth cert was the right one.

As Shirley has resurrected this thread -

I've PMd David to ask if the 1933 birth cert was the right one.

Just because it comes up

Marriages Jun 1935
Brolley William Webb York 9d 120
Webb Margaret E Brolley York 9d 120

So seems to be a local family

Further to Ericahs helpful suggestion and given Im new to this concept, heres what I found .
Marriage Certificate A/C 594722 Brolly/McNiven

Hugh Brian Brolly 19 yrs resides -62 stuart road acomb york . Married Jane McNiven 21 yrs resides - 16 Layerthorpe.They were married in the church of the English martyrs Dalton Terrace in York in 1955. The priest was father EJ Ward.
Hugh Brian brollys father is listed as William Brolly a labourer and shock absorber maker His wife E Brolly was a witness.
Jane Mcnivens father is listed as George McNiven an Iron Driller .The other witness is an R Mangham

It’s better to post details ON HERE for everyone to see

I'm afraid I'm not seeing anything, David.

Can you just type out all the details given about Jane, please?

EDIT:
yes, got it now, thanks, via attachment.

Age 21; father George McNiven, an iron driller.

Well, that narrows it down a bit.
It will be interesting to see if the 1933 birth is the correct one or not.

Assuming she was born in Scotland, the 1933 Hutchesontown birth is the only one for a Jane without a middle name.
The cert will give the names of both of her parents, and the date and place of their marriage.

Hi I have put the Marriage certificate on my keepsafe which you should be able to see a si have given you all access I only got it today
I have also ordered a certificate of birth for
MCNIVEN
JANE
F
1933
644/15 912
Hutchesontown

Apparently he has……….

We have no idea where Jane was born - not necessarily Scotland.

It's all guesswork until David gives us the details from the marriage cert.

The only way to see father’s name on Scottish certs is to buy a copy

The 1933 birth I posted looks promising……………

Hi David

I'm a bit pushed for time but have received your pm.

Unfortunatley it doesn't give us much.

Can those who found births for a Jane McNiven please check and see if her father was George. I can't quite read his occupation but it was Iron.......

She gave her age as 21 making her DOB around 1934 .


Thanks

Names

Added: It was a Catholic Church wedding

A birth with no second forename recorded

MCNIVEN
JANE
F
1933
644/15 912
Hutchesontown

For INFO ONLY

Death
MCNIVEN
JANE MCFADYEN
84
MCALLISTER
2013
644/ 218
Johnstone


Birth
MCNIVEN
JANE MCFADYEN
F
1929
644/20 50
Plantation

No second initial on the woman's marriage record

When David gets the cert, perhaps he'll fill us in on the info it holds

Brolly wasn't David's father - in spite of the birth reg being in that name

David was born surname Brolley so the Jane who married Conkie can’t be the right lady

Jane & Hugh's son born in 1958 married in 1988 and had two daughters.

Brian E Brolly
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1916-2007
Name: Brian E Brolly
Registration Date: Oct 1958[Nov 1958] [Dec 1958]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Howden
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Mother's Maiden Name: Macniven
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 239


He died in 1999:

Brian Edward Brolly
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Brian Edward Brolly
Death Age: 40
Birth Date: 9 Dec 1958
Registration Date: Apr 1999
Registration District: York
Inferred County: North Yorkshire
Register Number: D8B
District and Subdistrict: 6611D
Entry Number: 223

Or 1998??

Mr Brian Brolly
in the England and Wales, Death Index, 1989-2019
Name: Mr Brian Brolly
Gender: Male
Age: 39
Birth Date: 1959
Last Residence: York, North Yorkshire, England
Postal Code District: Yo24
Death Date: 11 Nov 1998


His gravestone says he died 1998:
https://billiongraves.com/grave/Brian-BROLLY/44690804


His wife was living in Acomb at least until 2019 per ER on GR, and the daughters lived with her for some of that time.

The house has not been sold since then, per Zoopla.

I dont know Shirley maybe a quick divorce then reunited later years?.

David has probally got his adoption file and it shows more details,plus his original birth certificate has extra information.

Can’t be the same Jane then as the one being looked for married Hugh
Brolly in 1955 so that’s a later marriage

Hopefully the poster will be getting the 1955 marriage certificate for it’s info