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FMP (Military) Look-Up Please

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Slartibartfast

Slartibartfast Report 20 Aug 2019 14:10

Hi Folks,

Please could someone do a double look-up for me?

Robert MARTIN service number 543 on the 1841 Army Worldwide Index and;
Robert MARTIN service number 492 on the 1861 Army Worldwide Index.

I am looking for the above who served in India with the 9th Lancers. He is on the Sutlej Medal Roll (1845/45) as Private 543. I am trying to work out if Private 492 is one and the same or just an annoying coincidence. Just my luck to have two people of the same name in the same regiment with very close service numbers.

Hey Ho!

Thanking you in anticipation.

S

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Aug 2019 15:15


British Army, Worldwide Index 1841

First name(s) Robert
Last name Martin
Sex Male
Service number 543
Rank Private
Unit or regiment 9Th Dragoons
Year 1841
Remarks -
Location Dorchester & Cardiff
Country Great Britain
The National Archive reference WO 12/890
Record set British Army, Worldwide Index 1841
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Regimental & Service Records
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

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British Army, Worldwide Index 1861

Country Great Britain
Record set British Army, Worldwide Index 1861
First name Robert
Last name Martin
Service number 492
Rank Trooper
Unit or Regiment 9Th Lancers (Queens Royal)
Regiment stationed at Aldershot
Year 1861
National Archives reference WO12 / 906
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Regimental & Service Records
Collections from Great Britain, UK None

Maddie

Maddie Report 20 Aug 2019 15:22

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1861

R
Last name Martin
Relationship Soldier
Marital status Unmarried
Sex Male
Age 35
Birth year 1826
Occupation Private
Birth town East Wickham
Birth town as transcribed EAST WICKHAM
Birth county Kent
Birth county as transcribed KENT
Birth place (other) England
Birth place other as transcribed -
Street -
Parish Aldershot
City or borough -
County Hampshire
Country England
Municipal ward -
Parliamentary borough -
Registration district Farnham
Enumeration district -
Archive reference RG09
Piece number 431
Folio 7
Page 9
Family member last name Thonger, Blake, Donally, Lucas, Shaw, Lynden, Dolfe, Jones, Morris, Prigge, Waddington, Howlett, Palmer, Mason, Farmer, Elliott, Frost, Brooks, Kilpack, Varley, Brien, Avery, Dean, Martin, Tyler, Bubb, Turner, Hyams, Day
Family member first name(s) R, A, T, J, E, P, H, David, Emma, W, G, C
Record set 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveysAldershot, Farnham, Hampshire, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 Aug 2019 15:25

According to wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9th_Queen's_Royal_Lancers

9th Dragoons and 9th Lancers (Queen's Royal) are one and the same with name changes along the way

Martin not an unusual name so could well be 2 different people

It looks as though the Regiment was renamed variously as time went by rather than amalgamate with others so I wouldn't have thought his number would have changed?

Nowadays each Soldier etc has a unique number. It's not that long ago (WW1 for instance) when numbers were issued concurrently in each different Regiment so you might find the same number allocated to several different men

Maddie

Maddie Report 20 Aug 2019 15:39

???????
Name: Robert Martin
Discharge Date: 20 Jul 1872
Regiment: 9th Regiment of Lancers
Rank: Pte

Slartibartfast

Slartibartfast Report 20 Aug 2019 16:04

That's brilliant, thank you both very much.
I think a trip to the PRO is in order.