Military Chat

born Thirsk in Yorkshire 1912
P.O.W WW2
.Service number 835881
captured serving has a sub ,.conductor in the Indian Army Ordance Corps..11 Ind Div

looking for name of P.O.W camp

WW2 Service records aren't online.

Try googling for where WW2 POW records may be held
eg https://www.icrc.org/en/archives

https://www.icrc.org/en/document/request-information-about-individuals-detained-during-second-world-war-or-spanish-civil-war-quota (looks like this one has a very limited application criteria)

You may need to apply for a copy of his Service documents which should hopefully hold details.

https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records

Cost for other than the person concerned or their NOK is £30 and the documents can take weeks/months to arrive

Ronald C. Dickinson
in the UK, World War II Allied Prisoners of War, 1939-1945
Name: Ronald C. Dickinson
Nationality: British
Rank: Sub. Condr. (W.o.cl.1)
Birth Date: 20 Jan 1912
Birth Place: Thirsk, Yorkshire, England
Military Date: 1939-1945
Military Place: Singapore
Regiment: I.a.o.c. (11 Ind Div)
Service Number: 835881
Mother: Sara Elizabeth Taylor
Description: 14: Japanese Index Cards of Allied Prisoners of War and Internees, World War II: Davies-Dickson

Date of capture: 17/02/15 [ doesn't make sense] [EDIT: BUT see post on 15 Feb.]
Destination of report: Mrs S E Taylor, 256 Park Avenue, Thirsk, Yorkshire.

The name of the camp is given in Japanese - so I don't know where he was!


DICKINSON, RONALD CLIVE mmn JENNINGS
GRO Reference: 1912 M Quarter in THIRSK Volume 09D Page 826


Parents' marriage:

Marriages Dec 1911 (>99%)
Dickinson George W Helmsley 9d 1015
Jennings Sarah E Helmsley 9d 1015



His parents must have divorced, and his mother remarried:

Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)
Dickinson Sarah E Taylor Hull 9d 815
Taylor George P Dickinson Hull 9d 815

His father died 1945:

George W Dickinson
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: George W Dickinson
Death Age: 66
Birth Date: abt 1879
Registration Date: Oct 1945[Nov 1945] [Dec 1945]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Scarborough
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 310


Ronald Clive Dickinson
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Ronald Clive Dickinson
Death Age: 78
Birth Date: 20 Jan 1912
Registration Date: Jan 1990
Registration District: Hull
Inferred County: Humberside
Volume: 7
Page: 719

War Office: Japanese Registers of Allied Prisoners of War and Civilian Internees held in Camps in Singapore, Second World War

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14571

Ah, here we are - his Liberation Questionnaire:

https://lq-cofepow.org/products/dickinson-ronald?_pos=2&_sid=320e0ec20&_ss=r

Captured 15 Feb 1942, in Singapore.
Held in Changi : 15/2/42 - 27/4/43
Then Camp Omi Japan : 27/4/43 - 6/8/45. [Though Omi wasn't officially established until 23/5/43 - seems Ronald was confused about his date of arrival, hardly surprisingly.]

He didn't make any escape attempts.


Re Camp Omi:

http://www.mansell.com/pow_resources/camplists/tokyo/tok-13b-omi/tok_13b_omi_main.html

For Ronald's name, scroll down the right-hand column on that page to "Additional documents - G Force list of POWs at Omi May 1943"

His name's also on page 5 of this list of prisoners at Omi:

http://www.mansell.com/pow_resources/camplists/tokyo/tok-13b-omi/TOK-13_Roster_RG407Bx115.pdf

He's listed in "Results for Prisoners Of War 1715-1945" on FindMyPast - if you have a sub (I don't):

Camp: Tokyo

Place of Capture: Singapore

report to mother - Sara Elizabeth Taylor

Re the date of capture given as 17/2/15 in the record I posted yesterday at 17:34 -

it does make sense in the Japanese calendar.

The Liberation Questionnaire says he was captured on 15 Feb 1942.

In the Japanese calendar, 1942 was year 17.
So the date , written as year/month/day, was 17/2/15.

https://notesofnomads.com/japanese-date-system/

Thank you to everyone