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Maddie

Maddie Report 1 Apr 2023 12:41

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1841
John Moore
Age 25
Estimated Birth Year abt 1816
Gender Male
Where born Norfolk, England
Civil parish Denver
Hundred Clackclose
County/Island Norfolk
Country England
Registration district Downham
Sub-registration district Downham
Neighbors
Piece 754
Book 7
Folio 23
Page number 12
Household Members (Name) Age
Anthony Rolfe
45
Elizabeth Rolfe
50
John Moore 25

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 Mar 2023 19:32

In case parents ever living with him -

The 1851 census shows John to not know where he was born, just states under Where Born - Unknown British subject which may well fit with his Father being in the Army. It would suggest a birth overseas perhaps

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Sluice Road, Denver, Downham, Norfolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Moore Head Married Male 31 1820 Agricultural labourer -
May Ann Moore Wife Married Female 27 1824 - Denver, Norfolk, England
Lucy Moore Daughter - Female 9 1842 - Denver, Norfolk, England
George Moore Son - Male 7 1844 - Denver, Norfolk, England
William Moore Son - Male 5 1846 - Denver, Norfolk, England


By 1861 he is saying East Dereham, Norfolk - MOORES

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Slince Road, Denver, Downham, Norfolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Moores Head Married Male 46 1815 Labourer East Dereham, Norfolk, England
Mary Ann Moores Wife Married Female 37 1824 - Denver, Norfolk, England
George Moores Son Unmarried Male 17 1844 Labourer Denver, Norfolk, England
Sarah Ann Moores Daughter - Female 9 1852 - Denver, Norfolk, England
Ann Rebecca Moores Daughter - Female 5 1856 - Denver, Norfolk, England

and 1871 - born Norwich - MORE

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Cross Drove, Hilgay, Downham, Norfolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John More Head - Male 53 1818 - Norfolk, England
Mary A More Wife - Female 47 1824 - Norfolk, England
Sarah More Daughter - Female 19 1852 - Norfolk, England
Rebecca A More Daughter - Female 14 1857 - Norfolk, England
John More Son - Male 11 1860 - Norfolk, England
Susan More Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Norfolk, England
Walter More Son - Male 7 1864 - Norfolk, England
Henry More Grandson - Male 6 1865 - Norfolk, England
Elizabeth M More Granddaughter - Female 1 1870 - Norfolk, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 Mar 2023 19:15

This John would have been old enough to be the Father but doesn't mean he is the right one

EDIT - see 1851 census posted below - John (junior) born - ? where, a British subject

You can google which Regiments were in Norfolk around the right time

British Army Service Records
Grindleford, Norfolk, Great Britain

First name(s) John
Archive reference WO 119
Last name Moore
Series Wo 119 - Kilmainham: Pensioners' Discharge Documents, 1783-1822
Birth year 1784
Series title Certificates of Service: Regiments on Irish Establishment
Attestation year 1822
Box 0066
Age at attestation years 38
Piece description B 3491 - B 3863
Birth town Grindleford
Piece year range 1790-1822
Birth county Norfolk
Record Number 360
Birth country England
Record set British Army Service Records
Regiment Rifle Brigade (Prince Consort's Own)
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Discharge corps Rifle Brigade (Prince Consort's Own)
Subcategory Regimental & Service Records
Document type Discharge
Collections from Great Britain, Ireland, UK None
Archive The National Archives

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 Mar 2023 18:54

Is this your John? Both said to be OTP - Of this Parish - but doesn't mean they were born there. Have you followed them in census to see where born?
Banns read Sep 26th and 3/10 October

Parish marriage record

England Marriages 1538-1973
Denver, Norfolk, England

First name(s) John
Spouse's age -
Last name Moore
Residence Denver, Norfolk, England
Name note -
County Norfolk
Marriage year 1841
Country England
Marriage date 12 Oct 1841
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Marriage place Denver
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Spouse's first name(s) Mary Ann
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Spouse's last name Barrett
Collections from England, Great Britain
Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl

John made his mark and Mary Ann signed.
Witnesses - Thomas Johnson (x) and Mary Ann (?J)arman -signed

Do you have the actual marriage certificate - can you give all the details - ages, occupations etc

Andy

Andy Report 28 Mar 2023 15:17

I have a marriage certificate for my 4times Grandfather John Moore, it states his father was also John Moore and that he is a soldier. The marriage took place in Denver Norfolk. Any suggestions as to how I can follow up on this ? Was there a army presence in Norfolk at this time ? (1841 )

Any help appreciated.
Andy Moore