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Hello Anne.......not having much luck here......I do have the Elton Records, but they don't help.

There are only TWO Martha's baptised in the time frame you want..and neither of them married at Elton..and there is no William Preston Hodgson at Elton.
Curiously I am unable to find any marriage for WPH..anywhere in the Civil registration BMD's...........he's probably there without the preston!!

The two "Wartha" baptisms at Elton were:-

MARTHA HARDY 22.12.1838
MARTHA STONE 30.05.1841...............I got these by going through the chronological Index between 1835 and 1845

There is Tree on Ancestry with William Preston Hodgson married to MARTHA WHALLEY allegedly born Elton........but there is no substantiation of any kind...
But on the off chance it could be right..and i can find no record at all.....it might be a second marriage for Martha......but since there is no ciil registration of a marriage for WPH........he might have forgotten to get married!!

I'm delving!!

Derek.

Hi Derek,
I do hope that you are keeping well. I have hit a brick wall (with one of my husband's ancestors this time) and I need your expert help yet again please :-D

'Martha' born in Elton, Derbyshire in about 1840.

I don't know her surname and I can't find any record of her birth. (Is this already an impossible task?! :-S)
I know she married a William Preston Hodgson born 1842 In Kirkham Lancs (son of George Hodgson and Mary Preston), but can't find any trace of a marriage?
She had 3 children - George, Mary Elizabeth & John William - maybe a fourth one named Joseph but am not 100% sure about him.
They all lived in Blackburn to start with then moved to Little Eaton, Derbys.
Her son George married a Derbyshire woman (Sarah Boam) who unfortunately died, so he went on to marry a Belgian woman (Valerie Gyselynck) and he ended his days in Ashbourne.
I would be very grateful if you could see if Martha exists anywhere in the Elton records. Although as I write this I can see that unless she actually married William P Hodgson in Elton it will be like looking for a needle in a haystack :-(.
Many thanks,
Anne :-)

Hi Derek,

Kettles on.
Thank you for the info on Gilbert/Burrows. I found the marriage of Pharoah Burrows and Ann Meakin this afternoon. Nothing came up when I looked under his name but it did when I just used Anns name. It took place in Basford district in 1860.

I'll do a bit more research now you've given me something to work with then I'll come back to you if I may.

Regards

Chrissie x

Thank you SO much Derek........thought it was probably the right HANNAH but not aware of any siblings. Knew I could count on you....

Are there any further details of ALICE, potential mother of THOMAS TOWNSHEND - TOWNSEND or am I correct in assuming as no fathers details in the parish register he was the result of a bit of naughtiness..............expect this may be the end of this line........unless of course you know different !!!!

On another subject........did you manage to find any of my elusive GREATOREX lot?

Ta very muchly for your continued help

Susan

Hello Susan.......I think you can be sure you have the right parents......HANNAH appears to have been the eldest of three children of Thomas and Elizabeth:-

Hannah baptised 20.04.1809
William baptised 13.05.1811
Samuel baptised 11.07.1813.

all at St.Alkmund Derby.........

I have been all through the Derby marriages for the few years either side of 1809..and can find nothing.....Thomas Townshend MAY have been born 30.11.1763 son of Alice..at St Werbergh.

Derek.

Hello Derek.........hope you are enjoying a large scotch on this wet and windy
night !!

Another one for you, if possible.....

Am trying to confirm parents of HANNAH TOWNSHEND who was married to George Jackson in 1829 in Derby. In 1840 in Hope Street, Derby.

May have been born about 1810 in St Peters, Derby ????

Found a baptism on familysearch 1809 at ST ALKMUNDS, DERBY.........PARENTS, THOMAS TOWNSEND & ELIZABETH...........suspect may be right one but not entirely sure. If its is my Hannah, any background on Thomas and Elizabeth would be wonderful.

Many Thanks
Susan :-)

oh silly me

its a good job someone knows what there doing

well off to bed now will keep looking in to see if you can find me anything


thank you for all the help so far

you are a star

take care

lorraine

No ..you just wrote 1838 etc..instead of 1738...........tut..tut..

i do mean them derek

why the cough cough have i ask before

lorraine

Cough cough......you don't by any chance mean the Godfrey and Mary who had Mary baptised at Heath 05.06.1738.....and Elizabeth at North Wingfield 08.01.1748??????

Derek.x

hi me again

could do with a marriage and baptisms please

godfrey tallents married mary unknown
children they had mary 1838 heath and william 1840
then to winfield for elizabeth

looking for any info on godfrey if possible

thank you very much

lorraine

thanks derek

Hi Derek

Hope you are well

Did you have any luck in tracing my elusive character William GREATOREX / GREATREX / GREATRIX ?

Susan :-D

Hello Neil.........Hemmingway/Hemmingray/Hemmingway//appear to be arbitrarily interchangeable........all your players appear spelt pretty well according to what mood you're in........althought Samuel and Ann are hemingray on the 1851.1861.1861 census..and Hemingway on the next three.......a good long record of their marriage which i'm sure you have access to.
Sammuel \hemingway was the son of thomas Hemmingray!! and Mary nee Cudowrth..baptised 11.02.1827............Thomas and mary were married at Duffield 26.12.1825

Samuel Hemmingway married Ann(e) Coope at Heage 14.04.1850.....her younger sister Martha was one of the witnesses.(Civil registration has him as HemingrayAMJ 1850).

Anne/Ann/Hannah Coup/.Coop/ Coope..was baptised18.12.1825 at Heage..daughter of Issac and Hannah nee Storer.who married at Duffield 30.03.1818.........they appear on the 1841 census.....

Derek.

Lorraine..............no suggestion that George Hibbert didn't marry Mary Tallants.........of course he did. xx

Hi Derek,

Couple of strands I'm looking for, I'm trying find Anne Coope who married Samuel Hemingray of Heage in 1850. Her father is Isaac but struggling to find her before then.

Also, Samuel Hemingray's father is Thomas Hemingray. His wife is Mary, I belive her maiden name may have been Cudworth? Again, struggling to go back any further but possibly this could be where the name derivated from Hemingway??

Any light you can throw would be much appreciated.

thanks derek

so ok if george hibbert didnt marry mary tallents what mary did he marry

there daughter elizabeth who married john selby was baptized 1756 wingfield derby [ the only elizabeth i can find ]

did ambrose and catherine have any more children
thank you

lorraine

Hey little Lozza.......I can find no sign of Hephzibah anywhere........as for George Hibbert.I do not rely on Family Search......although there is a Burial of a george hibbert 04.03.1755 in the PR's

I am happy that George Hibbert was baptised 11.08.1730 son of Ambrose and Catherine....not entirly happy that George HIBBARD married Mary TALLANTS 09.07.1752...........but you have to remember that there are two points at least where spellings can vary......the writing odwn in the first place, and any ne of a number of transcriptions....Hibbert/Hibberd/Hibbard seem to be interchangeable even in the same proven family

Derek.

ok derek

about the hibberts

george hibbert married mary tallents

so who was georges father i dont think it was ambrose hibbert as on familysearch his son george died unless of course they had another george

thank you derek for all the help

lorraine

hi derek

thank you very much

but

what about hephzlbah could she be marys sister

i know i am a pain derek

it would be nice if the answer was yes

lorraine

edit been on familysearch cannot find a marriage for godfrey and mary
so looked for a baptism for godfrey but dont know which one it is

but there is godfrey and mary going way back into the 1600s who had lots of children could these be godfreys parents

please help