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Im trying to find parents of john bate born 1853 i have record of his marrage to caroline hooper in tavistoke 1871 and i think he was born in calstock cornwall i cant find his birth im not very cleaver with computers
thanks

1861 England Census
about John F Bate Name: John F Bate
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Son
Father's name: John Bate
Mother's name: Grace Bate
Gender: Male
Where born: Calstock, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Calstock
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Tavistock
Sub-registration district: Tavistock
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 282
Household Members: Name Age
John Bate 32 1829 Linkinhorne, Cornwall Copper Miner
Grace Bate 36 1825 Northill, Cornwall
John F Bate 7
Edward Bate 3 1858 Calstock, Cornwall

This family is living next door to Edward Bate 59 1802 Linkinhorne, Cornwall, could be John Seniors parents.


Gosh he was young to be married was'nt he?

1871 England Census
about John Bate Jr Name: John Bate Jr
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Caroline Bate
Gender: Male
Where born: Calstock, Cornwall, England
Civil Parish: Calstock
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England
Registration district: Tavistock
Sub-registration district: Tavistock
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 102
Household Members: Name Age
John Bate 17 Married
Caroline Bate 22 Wife

Both born Calstock Cornwall. John is a Tin Miner

Moved a long way since 1871.

1901 England Census
about John F Bate Name: John F Bate
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Caroline Bate
Gender: Male
Where born: Calstock, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: East Murton
Ecclesiastical parish: Dalton le Dale Holy Trinity
Town: Murton Colliery
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Easington
Sub-registration district: Dawdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
John F Bate 47
Caroline Bate 51
Richard J Bate 19 1882 Murton Colly, Durham
Frank Bate 15 1886 Murton Colly, Durham
Caroline Bate 12 1889 Murton Colly, Durham
Walter Bate 10 1891 Murton Colly, Durham

lol thank you, i didnt even notice his age at marrage

yes my immediate family r from co durham all were miners

It should be the John Francis one as on one of those census I put up he was down as John F.

yes thank you he was john francis thank you for ur help

Yes I was right, John senior is the son of Edward.

51 England Census
about John Bate Name: John Bate
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Relation: Son
Father's name: Edward Bate
Mother's name: Mary Bate
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Linkinhorne, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Calstock
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Liskeard
Sub-registration district: Callington
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 92
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Bate 50
Mary Bate 48
John Bate 22
Elizabeth Bate 21
Digory Bate 8
Mary Soper 81 Mother in law so his wife must have been Mary Soper.

1851 England Census
about Mary Soper Name: Mary Soper
Age: 81
Estimated birth year: abt 1770
Relation: Mother-in-Law
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Stoke Climsland, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Calstock
County/Island: Cornwall

Yes!

EDWARD BATE Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: MARY BUNDLE SOPER Family
Marriage: 11 FEB 1828 Linkinhorne, Cornwall, England

Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.

Thank you so much thats great

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about John Bate Name: John Bate
Year of Registration: 1851
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Launceston
County: Cornwall, Devon
Volume: 9
Page: 197


John Bate 1851 Launceston Cornwall, Devon

Grace Bennett 1851 Launceston Cornwall, Devon

Name: Grace Bennett
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 12 Jan 1826
Baptism/Christening Place: Lewannick, Cornwall, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Richard Bennett
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Alice
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04039-3
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1595782
Reference Number: p 33


So this is where they got the name Richard from.