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11 Apr 2014 01:35 |
Hi, I'm just starting out on here and trying to find some information on the Tobin's of Macroom, particularly the marriage of Richard Tobin and Kate Barrett (my grandparents) and any details of their parents or siblings.
They were born circa 1880-1890 in the Macroom area of Co Cork, Ireland (Richard was a carriage builder) and they had six children :
Margaret (Peggy) 1907 Ellen Mary (Eileen) 1913 Richard William 1915 Mary Monica 1916 Robert 1917 Denis Augustine (Gussie) 1919
Thanks for looking Richard
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11 Apr 2014 08:21 |
Look for marriage at:
https://familysearch.org/
Look for census info at:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
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11 Apr 2014 08:24 |
A kick-start for you
I'll let YOU have the fun of finding them for yourself in 1901
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living
Linehan Daniel 70 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Slaneen Co Cork Labourer in General Cannot read or write Irish and English Married - - - - Linehan Hannah 52 Female Wife Roman Catholic Balimorive, Co Cork - Cannot read or write Irish and English Married - 31 4 4 Linehan John 31 Male Son Roman Catholic Macroom, Co Cork Railway Porter Read and write English Single - - - - Hoyes Catherine 60 Female Boarder Roman Catholic Bondon, Co Cork Cook Domestic Servant Read and write English Widow - - - - Bennett Catherine 74 Female Boarder Roman Catholic Kilmichael Co Cork Cook Domestic Servant Cannot read or write Irish and English Widow - - - - Tobin Richard 31 Male Boarder Roman Catholic Kilmichael Co Cork Carpenter Can read and write English Married - - - - Tobin Kate 28 Female Boarder Roman Catholic Carrightohil, Co Cork Scantress Can read and write English Married - 4 1 1 Tobin Margret Mary 3 Female Boarder Roman Catholic Kilamurry, Co Cork - Read and write English Single
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11 Apr 2014 08:37 |
Hi Richard
This looks like his birth reg & baptism
Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
Name:Richard Tobin
Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1880
Registration district:Macroom
Volume:5
Page:544
FHL Film Number:101057
Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
Name:Richard Tobin
Gender:Male
Birth Date:21 Mar 1880
Birth Place:Kilmaccabea, Cork, Ireland
Father's Name:Michael Tobin
Mother's name:Kate Hurley Tobin
FHL Film Number:256056
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11 Apr 2014 09:16 |
Thanks Reggie and Gins,
I've seen that census and it makes sense with Margaret's birth in 1907 which puts their marriage at 1906/1907. The Kilmichael place of birth and carpentry profession also fits in with my memory. I'm not sure what Scantress means though? I'll go take another look at 1901.
Richard had brothers that were involved in the building of a wooden inner ceiling/roof at a church in Kilmichael and he was listed in 1915 as a carriage builder so that makes sense which points me in the direction of Patrick as his father due to P Tobin & Sons carpenters and then Tobin Brothers carpenters listed in Macroom around that time but again I'm not certain I'm correct.
I'm none the wiser on the parents of Kate.
Richard & Kate were living in Main Street, Macroom in 1915.
I looked at those birth links and at first thought they were definately correct but I was always told his birth month was February.
Thanks for your time and input Richard
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11 Apr 2014 09:32 |
Seamstress, I would have thought!
When asking for help, please tell us ALL you know.......it saves us looking for info you already have!
And don't rely on what you've been 'told'..........unless it can be backed up with proof
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11 Apr 2014 10:37 |
Thanks for the advice.....The only fact/proof I have on the Macroom side for my Grandfather/Grandmother is on my father's 1915 birth certificate but nothing backwards from there is confirmed. I do know that their children are all listed correctly.
Richard
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11 Apr 2014 11:21 |
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Name: Richard Tobin Gender: Male Birth Date: 29 Feb 1880 Birth Place: Macroon, Cork, Ireland Father's Name: John Tobin Mother's name: Hannah Collins Tobin FHL Film Number: 256056
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Name: Richard Tobin Gender: Male Age: 21 Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation to Head: Son Residence Date: 31 Mar 1901 Residence Place: Gurteenroe Street, Macroom, Cork, Ireland Household Members: Name Age John Tobin 54 Hanna Tobin 48 Richard Tobin 21 Mollie Tobin 20 Kattie Tobin 18 William Tobin 16 Stephen Tobin 13 Hanna Maria Tobin 11 John Tobin 9 Margaret Tobin 7 Janie Tobin 5
Name: John Tobin Date of Registration: 1877 Registration district: Macroom Volume: 5 Page Number: 475 FHL Film Number: 101253
Records on Page: Name
Catherine Herley Hannah Collins <<<<<<<< John Tobin Michael Murry
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11 Apr 2014 11:40 |
Thanks Rootgatherer,
I took a look at that census and I'm not certain about it because of the tailor profession that's listed....it's possibly a correct link but the carpentry trade was the only profession I know of for my grandfather and siblings. I can't be sure so really need his birth certificate to confirm his parents names.
Richard
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11 Apr 2014 11:45 |
Look for the OTHER Richard in 1901................
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11 Apr 2014 12:26 |
This is the one that makes sense to me but it's only a guess, carpenters as profession
Residents of a house 5 in Rossnakilla (Teerelton, Cork)
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Tobin Patrick 60 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Tobin Margaret 45 Female Wife Roman Catholic Tobin Richard 22 Male Son Roman Catholic Tobin Nora 20 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Tobin Denis 18 Male Son Roman Catholic Tobin William 16 Male Son Roman Catholic
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11 Apr 2014 12:26 |
This is the one that makes sense to me but it's only a guess, carpenters by profession.
Residents of a house 5 in Rossnakilla (Teerelton, Cork)
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Tobin Patrick 60 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Tobin Margaret 45 Female Wife Roman Catholic Tobin Richard 22 Male Son Roman Catholic Tobin Nora 20 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Tobin Denis 18 Male Son Roman Catholic Tobin William 16 Male Son Roman Catholic
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11 Apr 2014 12:35 |
Buy the marriage cert to confirm his father's name & occupation:
Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958 Name:Richard Tobin Date of Registration:Jan-Feb-Mar 1907 Registration district:Bandon Volume:5 Page Number:14
Richard Tobin Katie Barrett You can buy the cert from this site:
http://www.hse.ie/eng/services/list/1/bdm/Certificates/
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11 Apr 2014 13:17 |
Thanks for that Potty, that link seems to only give the option for ordering back to 1920.
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11 Apr 2014 14:51 |
Sorry about that, Richard. It does look as if older certs cannot be ordered online.
This site has a form which can be downloaded for ordering by post. You will see that you can get a photocopy of the entry for €4:
http://www.welfare.ie/en/Pages/Apply-for-Certificates.aspx
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23 Apr 2014 11:00 |
Thanks Potty, got the marriage cert from your link and then to www.groireland.ie
They have updated their records back to 1903 but the ordering system hasn't been updated online.
The cert shows Richard Tobin (Carpenter) and his father as Patrick Tobin (Carpenter). Kate Barrett's father is noted as Robert Barrett (Dairy Man) - The marriage was 12th Feb 1907 in Cloughden, Cork. Their ages aren't shown.
Richard
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