Genealogy Chat

actually forget the above marriage as Henry and Ellen are still married and togther in 1911

this is from Lancashire BMD's
Marriages:
NAIRN Henry / WRIGHT Ellen 1889 Blackburn Register Office or Registrar Attended Blackburn Lancashire RM/104/9

this is Olga Hamilton in 1911

1911 census transcription details for: West Derby Union Childrens Hospital, WEST DERBY UNION CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL, DEYSBROOK LANE

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN22356 RD455 SD3 ED9 SN9999


Reg. District: West Derby Sub District: Fazakerley
Parish: West Derby Rural Enum. District: 9

Address: Deysbrook Lane West Derby Near Liverpool
County: Lancashire


Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born

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HAMILTON, Olga Patient Single F 12 1899 Nil Unobtainable (birth place not recorded)

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Jennie can be a nickname for Jane:

1881 England Census
about Jane Ann Cunningham
Name: Jane Ann Cunningham
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Matthew
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Aldershot

Civil parish: Rusholme
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 32 Albert St
Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 81
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Cunningham 61
Jane Cunningham 47
Jane Ann Cunningham 19
Ernest Leslie Cunningham 13
Rowalland G. Cunningham 9
Agnes Ruth Cunningham 7
Angus M. Cunningham 4

Rose

Funny you should mention Cunningham.......

I was looking for Georgina, Nesta and Olga's births last night. Nesta and Olga were easy to find but the only birth for a Georgina M in Manchester was the following:

Births Mar 1892
Cunningham Georgina Mary N Manchester 8d 238


Also, Ruth and Ellen J are both born in Aldershot. Makes me think they are the same person.

Rose

hi the names on the cert are george hamilton / jennie hamilton nee cunningham 2 pear grove

This appears to be the birth reg for Olga and 1901 census.

Her mother Ellen is born the same year and place as Ruth Hamilton on the 1911 posted.

Births Dec 1898 (>99%)
Nairn Olga Emily W. Derby 8b 255



1901 England Census
about Olga E Nairn
Name: Olga E Nairn
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ellen J
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Chrysostom
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England


Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: South Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 271
Household Members:
Name Age
Ellen J Nairn 36 born Aldershot, Hampshire
Georgina M Nairn 9
Nesta E Nairn 5
Olga E Nairn 2



Could this be Olga in 1911?

INSTITUTION HAMILTON OLGA F 1899 12 West Derby Lancashire


As Rose has said we need to know the names of the parents on the cert you received.


Christine

If the date matches with your grandad's then it has to be the one.

Can you list the parents and occupations from the cert?

Rose

i can only say that what ihave told she was his mother but i hope to get his marr cert soon

You mean it said 108 on the green piece of paper the GRO sends you with the certificate?

Rose

same date but diferent ref

same date but diferent ref

Was Ruth Nairn a witness on his marriage cert?

Rose

hi rose i sent for 8b 103 and received 8b 108 . fred

Fred,

Not sure what you mean by they sent you "108". There's no 108 to be sent.

What was the date of birth on the one you received?

Rose

thanks belle i have been trying to move my liverpool connection for a year i have disheartened that i cant move on this part of the puzzle i appreciate everyones help thanks fred

hi christine the marriage cert is supposed to read dad frederick mum ruth nairn , the problem i have is the only olga i can find is a olga nairn born 1899 to a elllen nairn tegid rd livirpool ,the cert i wanted was 8b 103 but was sent 108 , olga married a trinidadian sailor who died on a merchant ship during ww2 thanks fred

Hi Fred,

The birth cert you have could possibly be the one I posted as I have just checked the image and it could be 108. There is no other birth registered for Frederick Hamilton 8b 108.

Do you have his marriage cert and his death cert? The death cert may give his actual birth date.

Sometimes family stories are not always correct. Can you check on the sister or half sister Olga?


Christine

My g gran had her 10 children (born between 1901 and 1924) in the workhouse, as the doctor was free!!!
Also, by 1900, some workhouses had a 'proper' hospital, separate from, but within the grounds of the workhouse.

Your welcome Fred,

Another thought you could try contacting:


•Liverpool Record Office and Local History Service, Central Library, William Brown Street, Liverpool L3 8EW.

who have the following records regarding Liverpool Workhouse:
◦Guardians' minutes (1852-1922)
◦Brownlow Workhouse — Admissions (1869-1925); Births (1841-1914); Baptisms (1831-58, 1874-1928); Deaths (1914-24); Creed register (1841-1928); etc.
◦Kirkdale Industrial School— Admissions and discharges (1862-1965); Classification registers (1845-97); Creed register (1869-1904).
◦Kirkdale Homes — Creed registers (1913-1969); Registers of deaths (1924-1971).

http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/Leisure_and_culture/Libraries_and_archives/index.asp