Genealogy Chat

Why isn't there a death that I know about on the record list for 2009?
It was my child's father, we are pretty devastated. I was confident that he was alive and well, but find out a few days ago, that he had passed.
I'm angry that a site I used to have confidence in has let us down. :-(

You won't find deaths that recent in the records. Online births, marriages and deaths only go up to about 2007 and there are no plans to release any more as it is too expensive to have them transcribed and digitized.

Kath. x

As Kath says, there are no plans for GRO to release recent deaths ............


you MIGHT be able to find some information on ancestry by looking at the following sites, with the provisos noted


UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current .............. information mainly taken from obituaries in newspapers, etc

United Kingdom and Ireland Obituary Collection ...... as above

UK, Select Cemetery Registers, 1873-2012

Dorset, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-2010


You could also try Google



but this is one case where you cannot blame GR for not having the records!

If you know the area he died you would be able to get a copy of the cert from the local Register Office

You have not been let down by this site, or, indeed, any site..

The info simply isn't available on line

Try this site.
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills
EG

Surname First name Date of probate Date of death Registry


ABRAHAMS VALERIE JANE 18 February 2015 4516008 06 January 2015 Grant and will Cardiff

http://www.iannounce.co.uk/

Try the site above taken from obituraries placed in local newspapers,you may find an obit for him to confirm.

If he died in 2009, as your post implies, it's taken someone a long time to tell you

There are some recent Deaths on Ancestry.... Where they come from I don't know unless it's from the probate?

All England and Wales death index 2007 -2013

Example

View Record
Kenneth Jones
14 Jun 1921 19 Jul 2007 Swansea, Swansea, Wales
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Kenneth Jones
1921 6 Oct 2007 Southport, Lancashire, England
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Wilfred Kenneth Jones
24 Dec 1921 24 May 2008 Grantham, Lincolnshire, England
View Record
John Kenneth Jones
1922 15 Apr 2012 Sheffield, England
View Record
Kenneth Jones
1922 28 Sep 2012 Cardiff, Cardiff, Wales
View Record
Kenneth Jones
13 Jan 1922 21 Nov 2008 Sheffield, England
View Record
Kenneth Jones
17 Jun 1922 19 May 2008 Wirral, Merseyside, England
View Record


This is what you see

Name: Mr Kenneth Jones
Gender: Male
Age: 92
Birth Date: 1919
Death Date: 10 Aug 2011
Residence Place at Death: Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England
Postal Code District: S65

Jax ..............

I think there is another thread on GR re All England and Wales death index 2007 -2013 ...........

the consensus seems to be that the information has been taken from death notices in newspapers ............. GRO does not use the honorifics Mr, Mrs, etc, nor do they put Postal Codes and exact dates of death

I found the information on ancestry re the source ..............

Source Information
Ancestry.com. England and Wales, Death Index, 2007-2013 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original data: GreyPower Deceased Data. compiled by Wilmington Millennium, West Yorkshire.

About England and Wales, Death Index, 2007-2013

This collection is a compiled index that covers approximately 55% of the total deaths that occured in this time period.

This index provides death details for people in England and Wales, specifically their name, gender, date of birth or age at death, date of death, and residence place at death. However, they do not include the General Register Office (GRO) reference information.




Question is ...............

who is / are Wilmington Millenium?

I don't know of many people that have died in that period.... But did find an old friend on iannounce that died early 2013 and he isn't on there

No idea who they are Sylvia

well, they do say "approximately 55% of the total deaths" during that time


I didn't find my aunt who died in 2011, nor a friend who died in 2008

Wilmington Millenium is a company that includes the function of compiling lists of deaths for marketing purposes. That is so that subscribing companies can update their emailing lists to supress mailshots to people who have died.

http://www.wilmingtonmillennium.co.uk/

Thank you everyone, I wasn't aware that it was only until 2007.

Jaqueline
He was estranged, I thought she was now old enough, at 17, to create a relationship herself. We approached his family first, only to find we were 6 years too late, as he had died at 41.

Again, thank you everyone x