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Wonder if anyone can help with this mystery.
John Michael Scholer married Lucie Sydney Mills on 29.7.1915.
Her age was given as 31. (born 1884)
Her address was 93 Tufnell Park Road, Islington.
Her father - Peter Mills a Civil Engineer
Witnesses: Kate Allery and V Allery.

Now, 1911 census and Lucie Mills is at 93 Tufnell Park Road - AGE 37 ! and born 1874, Ponders End, Middlesex. At the same address are the Allerys.

I cannot find a birth record for Lucie, or a census entry before 1911 - and no trace of her father.

I've tried every variation I can think of including Sydney as a surname (mother's maiden name possibly) but to no avail. Really beginning to wonder if Lucie Mills was her real name.

On a side note JMS changed his surname to Dickson (mother's maiden name) during WW1 and Lucie became Lucie Dickson, died 1952.

Any suggestions?

Could this be her on the .1939 register


Lane Household (7 People)
Buckler House , St Austell U.D., Cornwall, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Licie S Dickson 08 ? 1884 Unpaid Domestic Duties
William C Lane 31 Mar 1881 Rock Drill Fitter
Flora Lane 12 Mar 1879 Boarding House Proprietress
Rosemary R Morgan (Attoe) 22 Mar 1923 At School
Dorothy E Lancashire (Fryer,Ogorman) 22 Feb 1930 At School
Sophia M Gunyan 28 Apr 1854 Incapacitated
Winifred Tyrrell 07 Apr 1909. Kindergarten teacher and household duties

Birth year 1884 again


First name(s) LUCIE S
Last name DICKSON
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1884
Age 68
Death quarter 2
Death year 1952
District BASFORD
County Nottinghamshire
Volume 3C
Page 7
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain
(c) brightsolid online publishing ltd

looking at the image of the 1939 Register ............

It IS Lucie S Dickson

she is Married

Buckler House is a Boarding House, and 12 people live there

Perhaps???

Name: Lucy Mills
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Camden
Civil Parish: Hornsey
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Ecclesiastical parish: Muswell Hill St James
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:NURSE*******
Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Hornsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1244
Folio: 128
Page Number: 35
Household schedule number: 172
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Algar Woolnough 40
Kate Woolnough 39
Dorothy Kate Woolnough 10
Marjery Townley Woolnough 6
Cuthbert F R Woolnough 1
Maria Manley Ford 27
Lucy Mills 18**********************

ON the 1911 census record they have written 27 and made it into 37 or could it have just been a pen slip??

For ref

Name: Lucie Mills
Age in 1911: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: PONDERS ENDS, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Islington
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County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 93 Tufnell Park Road, Holloway N
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: SHORTHAND TYPIST
Registration district: Islington
Registration District Number: 10
Sub-registration district: Tufnell
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Piece: 793
Household Members:
Name Age
Lucie Mills 37
Mary Lavinia Campbell Grant 22
Elizabeth Brooker 41

Name: Lucy Mills
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 17 Aug 1873
Baptism Place: St. Johns, Tottenham, Middlesex, England
Father: Peter Mills**************************
Mother: Frances Chambers
FHL Film Number: 87949



Name: Peter Mills
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Age: 31
Spouse: Frances Chambers
Spouse Age: 32
Record Type: Marriage*********************
Event Date: 7 Sep 1872
Parish: St Andrew, Enfield
Borough: Enfield
Father Name: Alexander Mills
Spouse Father: George Chambers
Register Type: Parish Register

Name: Peter Mills
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Francis Mills
Gender: Male
Where born: Arbroath, Angus, Scotland
Civil Parish: St Mary Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 206 Hornsey Rd
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Greengrocr
Registration district: Islington
Sub registration district: Islington East
ED, institution, or vessel: 38a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 260
Folio: 98
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Mills 39*********Forfar, Arbroath, , Scotland
Francis Mills 40************Stoke Edith, Hereford, England
Lucy Mills 7**************************************Enfield Middx
George Mills 5
Francis A. Mills 3
Peter R. Mills 1
Elizabeth Kilmaster 11
Lucy Bott 55
Thomasina E. Edwards 29
Elizabeth Parker 40

Name: George Mills
Born 16 July 1875

Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 26 Sep 1875
Father's name: Peter Mills Occ Zapper???? or Sagger
Mother's name: Frances Mills
Parish or Poor Law Union: St James, Enfield
Borough: Enfield
Register Type: Parish Registers
Address Ponders End.

CAn't find Lucy

1891
Name: Lucy Mills
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Peter Mills
Mother's name: Frances Mills
Gender: Female
Where born: Enford, Middlesex, England
[Enfield, Middlesex, England]
Civil Parish: Grays Inn
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: Grays Inn
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: Dressmaker

Registration district: Holborn
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 219
Folio: 148
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Mills 52
Frances Mills 52
Lucy Mills 17
Robert Mills 15
Catherine Hopkins 27

1901 Census mistranscribed.

Name: Lucy Mills
[Lucy Mitzman]
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Henry Mitzman
Mother: Mary Mitzman
Birth Place: Enfield, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Grays Inn
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Ecclesiastical parish: Grays Inn Extra Parochial
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: Holborn
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 246
Folio: 124
Page Number: 8
Household schedule number: 126
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Mitzman 52 This is the family above Peter Mills
Mary Mitzman 47
Robert H Mitzman 21

Address 3 Raymond buildings**********
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4 Raymond Buildings******************
Peter Mills 65 Peter has said he is Father and not Head and he is now a widower. Retired Gardener***********
George Mills 25
Robert Mills 20
Fanny Mills 23
Lucy Mills 27 Lucy is a Typewriter CC worker
Will Long 23

from the new GRO Index

MILLS, LUCY CHAMBERS
GRO Reference: 1873 S Quarter in EDMONTON Volume 03A Page 231

Peter's YOB varies a lot in the records - 1841 at marriage, and 1836, 1839, 1842 in censuses.

However, I don't see any Peter Mills born in Angus.

Name Mill
Gender Male
Birth Date 25 Mar 1843
Birthplace ARBROATH,ANGUS,SCOTLAND
Death Date 25 Mar 1843
Father's Name Alexr. Mill ********

Peter Mills
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Peter Mills
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Arbroath; Forfartore [Forfarshire], Scotland
Civil Parish: Enfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Ponders End
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Edmonton
Sub-registration district: Enfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 143
Piece: 1344
Folio: 90
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Stephen Luming 37
Elizabeth Luming 33
Frances Cooper 14
Alfred Cuin 16
Peter Mills 30 - Lapper, jute factory.

I wonder???????

Name: Peter Mills
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: 1842
Relation: Soldier
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Maidstone
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:


Registration district: Maidstone
Sub-registration district: West Maidstone
ED, institution, or vessel: Barracks, Sandling Road Maidstone
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 501
Folio: 97
Page Number: 5

Thanks everybody, gives me a few leads to work on. The 10 year age discrepancy was annoying me and I wonder if John knew Lucie's real age...