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Egypt & Canada

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caroline17

caroline17 Report 25 Oct 2014 13:51

I'm looking for my half siblings
Michael James Guy b.1944 in Egypt to Bella & Edward Guy, last known on boat in 1959 going to Montreal & Quebec.
Esme Sarah Guy b.1943 in Egypt to same parents and same details.

I would really like to know if anyone has any information of either of these two people.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

Caroline Wilson (nee Guy)

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 25 Oct 2014 16:47

Hi Caroline.

I can't help you personally, but I suggest you edit your heading to say 'Canada and Egypt' - there might be members who can help you with info about these places, and that will catch their eye.

In the meantime, it's worth looking for matches in other members' trees - use the search box above. You can send a message if you get a match.

Have you tried the Canadian White Pages? There are a few Michael Guys in Quebec (be sure to specify provinces, as this site gives you USA too - might be worth checking this out as well though, as there are a few Michael J, Guys showing in the US).

Good luck!

Jan

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 25 Oct 2014 18:58

the problem with passenger records to Canada (and the same for the US) is that the ship destination port is not usually the intended place of residence of the passengers

people arrived at the east coast ports and often travelled by train all the way to the west coast, or points in between

if the entire family went to Canada - mother Bella, father Guy, and children Michael and Esme - just googling might possibly find information such as the parents' obituaries

the best site to use for Canadian white pages is www.canada411.ca since as Jan says the whitepages site is a US site ... and unlike BT online for example, you can search the whole country without naming a province

... except ... I have just realized that sometime in the last year when I was not looking, the site has been 'improved' it seems ... you can no longer say you are looking for surname 'guy' and initial 'm' for example ... if you search for 'guy' you will get a hundred people named 'Jean-Guy'. Yet another site that has destroyed its search function, we know not why!

if you know Bella's birth surname and if the parents had middle names that could help in searching as well

by the way I agree with Jan, a subject line that says the names and place would be more useful for you

and ... please would you use the 'Edit' link to remove the birthdates from your post and leave only the years of birth ... the site rules are quite clear that this kind of detailed personal info is not permitted, and it probably isn't helpful to your search anyway ... someone will report your post and it will be deleted if you don't change it, but it would be nice if whoever might do that would give a newbie a chance to fix it first

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 25 Oct 2014 19:25


UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Esme Guy
Name: Esme Guy
Gender: Female
Departure Date: 23 Oct 1959
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Montreal, Canada
Ship Name: Empress Of England
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Empress Of England' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Canadian Pacific Railway

The Esme Guy (same dob as you quote) was listed with Lea Ermou and Peter Jaffe (born 1953) whose names have been crossed out. The last place of residence for all 3 was 20 Fairmile Ave, Streatham, London.

England is listed as Esme’s intended country of permanent residence implying that she was only visiting N America – contracted to disembark in Montreal

No other Guys appear to be travelling in the same Class

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 25 Oct 2014 19:36

findmypast also shows Michael travelling to Montreal in 1959 ... I don't subscribe for details

but no Bella or Edward (anytime 1950 to 1960, the cutoff year)

is it possible that the children travelled from England because they had been at school or visiting, and the parents travelled from Egypt if they went to Canada too?

any more info you have could help

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 25 Oct 2014 19:43

The free preview on GR - assuming it the same voyage, its strange that it doesn't come up on Ancestry

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
MICHAEL GUY

Ship Name EMPRESS OF ENGLAND
Birth Year 1944

Ship Departure Port LIVERPOOL
Destination Port MONTREAL, Canada

Departure Year 1959

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Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States

EDIT - he is on the same vessel but listed seperately - same details as Esme

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 25 Oct 2014 19:54

Have you any further details about their parents please, for instance their father's occupation?

As JoonieCloonie has suggested, he might have been posted to Canada and they were visiting.

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Kay????

Kay???? Report 25 Oct 2014 20:36

Edward Thomas Guy and Bella ? appear on 2 Ancestry trees.

caroline17

caroline17 Report 25 Oct 2014 20:58

Thank you to all those people who have kindly replied to my post. I am new to this site so not sure how it works.
I have taken your advice and changed the header and put just the birth years as suggested. Thank you.
I have all these people on my family tree with Ancestry as I have been researching for a few years.
All the information that you have all given me I already know - except for where they went!!
Mothers maiden name was Bella Tenenbaum and she married Edward Thomas Guy in 1937 in Egypt.
I am younger than both Michael & Esme and I knew my father asi was living with him until his death.
I am really at a loss as to know where to look for my half siblings once they arrived in Canada. They did not travel with their mother although they all moved to UK sometime between 1944-1950's.

If there is anyone who knows where I can look to see where they went in Canada would be really helpful!
I have hit the dreaded brick wall!

Thanks
Caroline

Kay????

Kay???? Report 25 Oct 2014 21:19

Have you tried facebook,,,,,,,,there is an unlisted profile for Esme Guy listed,,,,,,,I'm not a FB user but a profile may show for Michael.?

FB has many sections perhaps you could find one to post a message?

caroline17

caroline17 Report 26 Oct 2014 00:29

Thanks to Kay???? - I'm not a Facebook user so probably wouldn't use it to look - hope that doesn't sound too negative - would hope to try other methods if pos - but thanks for the tip.
Caroline