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Robert Lightfoot White

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Michael

Michael Report 27 Oct 2014 15:15

Robert was my grandfathers cousin whose existence I have only recently discovered. I understand he died in 1983 in Newcastle upon Tyne and may have been married to Margaretta Cartwright who died in 2002, did they have any family? Furthermore Robert had three brothers all from Tyneside, Albert Victor White who died 1930 Joseph W White who died 1930 and James Hope White who died 1950,I believe all three brothers were also married. Any further info on the family would be much appreciated.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 27 Oct 2014 15:45

What do you actually hope for?

Have you done any research using freebmd?

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

That's where you should be looking for marriage info.........and also for offsrping

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 27 Oct 2014 15:46

Birth year info helps

WHITE ROBERT LIGHTFOOT 1896 — 1896 Births & baptisms Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
241 Beaconsfield Street Newcastle on Tyne, Elswick, Northumberland, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Robert White Head Married Male 47 1864 Langley on Tyne Northumberland Coal Hawker Transcription
Mary Jane White Wife Married Female 48 1863 Hexham Northumberland - Transcription
Joseph William White Son Single Male 23 1888 Hexham Northumberland Coal Hawker Transcription
James Hope White Son Single Male 21 1890 Hexham Northumberland Coal Hawker Transcription
Albert Victor White Son Single Male 19 1892 Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland Clerk Newcastle And Gateshead Gas Co Transcription
Robert Lightfoot White Son - Male 14 1897 Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland School

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 27 Oct 2014 15:52

A copy of the cert will confirm whether or not the groom was the man you are asking about, and whether Cartwright was the bride's maiden name


Marriages Dec 1932 (>99%)

Cartwright Margaretta White Newcastle T. 10b 77
White Robert L Cartwright Newcastle T. 10b 77

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 27 Oct 2014 15:54

A son or daughter MAY have been the informant

First name(s) MARGARETTA
Last name WHITE
Gender Female
Birth day 8
Birth month 4
Birth year 1903
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 2002
District NORTH TYNESIDE
District number 0541B
Register number B30C
Entry number 292
Date of registration mm/yy 0402

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 27 Oct 2014 15:58

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
46 Strachan St Newcastle on Tyne, Westgate, Northumberland, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
James Ralph Cartwright Head Married Male 31 1880 Newcastle on Tyne Carter Builders Transcription
Mary Ellen Cartwright Wife Married Female 30 1881 Newcastle on Tyne - Transcription
Margaritta Cartwright Daughter - Female 7 1904 Newcastle on Tyne School Transcription
Mary Isabella Cartwright Daughter - Female 5 1906 Newcastle on Tyne School Transcription
Mary Ellen Cartwright Daughter - Female 2 1909 Newcastle on Tyne - Transcription
Alexander Adamson Father In Law Widow Male 62 1849 Newcastle on Tyne Labourer General Transcription
Percival Adamson Brother In Law Single Male 22 1889 Newcastle on Tyne Carter Fruiterer Transcription
Francis Alexander Adamson Brother In Law Single Male 18 1893 Newcastle on Tyne Labourer General Fruiterer Transcription

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 27 Oct 2014 16:05

No second name recorded, so no way of knowing if this was the man you are looking at, although the DOB matches the birth registration

First name(s) ROBERT
Last name WHITE
Gender Male
Birth day 14
Birth month 11
Birth year 1896
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1983
District NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE
County Northumberland
Volume 2
Page 0765

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 27 Oct 2014 16:15

If the White/Cartwright marriage turns out to be correct, a copy of her Will may give further clues

Surname First name Date of probate Probate number Date of death Document type Registry
WHITE MARGARETTA 23 July 2002 973486 10 April 2002 Grant and will Newcastle Upon Tyne

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 27 Oct 2014 16:23

A tree on Ancestry has uploaded a certificate relating to James Hope White.
Although it is inaccessible at the moment, the details given for him are


James Hope White Loseby/Smith/Goode/Start family tree

Birth: Sep 1889 - Northumberland
Marriage: 18 Nov 1916 - Carlisle
Death: 07 Dec 1950 (7 Dec 1950) - Newcastle Upon Tyne
Parents: Robert White, Mary Jane Hope
Spouse: Edith Mary Williamson

Birth
Name: James Hope White
Registration Year: 1889
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Hexham
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 334

Marriage

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005 about James H White
Name: James H White
Spouse Surname: Williamson (Edith M)
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1916
Registration district: Carlisle
Inferred County: Cumberland
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 963

Death
Name: James H White
Birth Date: abt 1888
Date of Registration: Dec 1950
Age at Death: 62
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 1b
Page: 195

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 27 Oct 2014 16:37

Searching Freebmd for White/Williamson births
Parameters 1915-1925, Northumberland, there are 4 results. Without actually ordering the certificates, it would be reckless to assume that they are James and Edith's children
However, you could use the details to see if anyone has them listed and send a message

Births Dec 1916 (>99%)
White Emily Williamson Tynemouth 10b 411

Births Dec 1920 (>99%)
White Edith W R Williamson Tynemouth 10b 453

Births Mar 1921 (>99%)
WHITE Freda Williamson Newcastle T. 10b 141

Births Dec 1923 (>99%)
White John Williamson Tynemouth 10b 368



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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 27 Oct 2014 16:42

Albert Victor White

Birth
Name: Albert Victor White
Registration Year: 1892
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 45

Baptism???
Name: Albert Victor White
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 2 Mar 1892
Baptism Place: Elswick, Northumberland, England
Father: Robert White
Mother: Mary Jane
FHL Film Number: 2193276
Reference ID: item 11 p 152

Death
Name: Albert V White
Birth Date: abt 1892
Date of Registration: Mar 1930
Age at Death: 38
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 72

Freebmd does not appear to list a marriage for him in England or Wales

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 27 Oct 2014 16:58

Its possible that Joseph W White married in 1913, BUT as there are other men of the same name, only the certificate could confirm if he is 'yours'

Name: Joseph W White
Spouse Surname: Foster (Agnes M)
Registration Year: 1913
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Tynemouth
Inferred County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 366

Look for possible children in Northumberland on Freebmd.
This one looks a strong contender - there are others

Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
White Joseph W Foster Tynemouth 10b 449

Paul

Paul Report 28 Dec 2014 19:21

Freda White B.1921 is not related to Edith W R White as Freda was my mother in law and her dob is too close to that of Edith.

Would love to know more of Emily and John though as these names were never mentioned but Freda and her Mum did leave Newcastle for London at some stage in the 1930s and we have no idea why. Can anyone enlighten us?

Paul